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Isn't the amount of diacetyl even in the affected flavours still tiny in comparison to a cigarette? Correct me if I'm wrong.

altruios 4y ago
As far as I'm aware - you are correct. the whole popcorn lung thing is paid propaganda from ironically funded by tobacco industries. popcorn lung only ever affected factory workers working with that chemical in concentrations higher than you would ever see even in a cigarettes chain-smoker. This move made sense before they owned major players in the E-juice/E-cig business (juuls) - but now seems weird to push again. edit: with all this said. let us not have that chemical in e-cigarettes going forward in the future (which I'm pretty sure most companies moved away from it in 2014 during the original popcorn lung ad campaign - so I doubt it's as much as an issue as it was previously).
- cokeandpepsi 4y ago
  All of the scaremongering died when the big tobacco companies got involved; just like microsoft when they 'feel in-love' with linux
- pookha 4y ago
  Take away vaping and the kids will start smoking cigarettes. And tar is the leading cause of lung cancer... And lung cancer is one of the worst ways to go. People slowly suffocate and eventually drown. This anti vaping bullshit needs to be put into context with the risks of smoking cigarettes.
- BizarroLand 4y ago
  It's like the scaremongering about vapes when there was a few people harmed by them, but the news media left out that the kids were vaping black market marijuana vapes contaminated with vitamin e oils and not legally registered and sold nicotine vapes or safely designed and regulated marijuana vapes. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/s...
Ancapistani 4y ago
My intuition is that cigarette smokers are likely to not be smoking constantly, while vapers are much more likely to be doing so. I’ve used nicotine in various forms for quite a while, and find that I tend to mindlessly and very heavily vape when I’m working on something that requires intense thought. I made it a point to have a second device with a much lower nicotine level - or no nicotine at all - for that purpose. Otherwise I’d develop cravings far beyond what I’d ever experienced before.
gwern 4y ago
Given the amount of vaping, if popcorn lung was a real thing in vaping, you'd think they'd be citing much stronger evidence than factory workers decades ago and complaining that some paperwork would surely have solved it.

altruios 4y ago

As far as I'm aware - you are correct. the whole popcorn lung thing is paid propaganda from ironically funded by tobacco industries. popcorn lung only ever affected factory workers working with that chemical in concentrations higher than you would ever see even in a cigarettes chain-smoker. This move made sense before they owned major players in the E-juice/E-cig business (juuls) - but now seems weird to push again. edit: with all this said. let us not have that chemical in e-cigarettes going forward in the future (which I'm pretty sure most companies moved away from it in 2014 during the original popcorn lung ad campaign - so I doubt it's as much as an issue as it was previously).

cokeandpepsi 4y ago
All of the scaremongering died when the big tobacco companies got involved; just like microsoft when they 'feel in-love' with linux
pookha 4y ago
Take away vaping and the kids will start smoking cigarettes. And tar is the leading cause of lung cancer... And lung cancer is one of the worst ways to go. People slowly suffocate and eventually drown. This anti vaping bullshit needs to be put into context with the risks of smoking cigarettes.
BizarroLand 4y ago
It's like the scaremongering about vapes when there was a few people harmed by them, but the news media left out that the kids were vaping black market marijuana vapes contaminated with vitamin e oils and not legally registered and sold nicotine vapes or safely designed and regulated marijuana vapes. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/s...

Ancapistani 4y ago

My intuition is that cigarette smokers are likely to not be smoking constantly, while vapers are much more likely to be doing so. I’ve used nicotine in various forms for quite a while, and find that I tend to mindlessly and very heavily vape when I’m working on something that requires intense thought. I made it a point to have a second device with a much lower nicotine level - or no nicotine at all - for that purpose. Otherwise I’d develop cravings far beyond what I’d ever experienced before.

gwern 4y ago

Given the amount of vaping, if popcorn lung was a real thing in vaping, you'd think they'd be citing much stronger evidence than factory workers decades ago and complaining that some paperwork would surely have solved it.