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Agreed, it's hard to imagine voluntarily embarrassing yourself in public as badly as the author has done here. "When I went to college and met for the first ti

Agreed, it's hard to imagine voluntarily embarrassing yourself in public as badly as the author has done here. "When I went to college and met for the first time a good number of vegetarians and vegans, I used to blow their minds with this argument" Indeed. That must have really been something. Well, he won't say anything to make us thinks he's positioning this in less than good faith, then? "Honestly, fuck crabs" Ok. but... " but really octopuses are pretty horrible too. Oh, they’re smart, but, similar to crabs, they’re cannibals. They spend most of their time cavorting in a midden pile of prey bones." Midden pile? "If your cats were big enough, they’d eat you. Feline fillets are simply turnabout as fair play." Cats? "we should obviously be eating hyenas" I'm done. Seriously, it's this guy https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/erik-hoel https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/erik-hoel ? what a waste of intellect.

tomtheelder 4y ago
The author says, in the introduction, "this entire essay is ridiculous." You are taking it much too seriously. It's all meant in a joking way just to explore some sillier ideas around animal ethics that may or may not have a kernel of value hidden in them. Nothing about this article is embarrassing, unless you intentionally misconstrue the tone and intentions of the author.
- throwaway5752 4y ago
  The entire pieces is extremely embarrassing. It frames itself as ridiculous and then goes on to take itself entirely seriously. The author clearly thinks it is quite clever. I won't give it a pass. The "one bad day" movement in the meat industry is a rounding error overall production It isn't that funny when 1) wild caught seafood is crushing wild populations of fish, cephalopods, and shellfish 2) nearly all meat is raised industrially and the livestock live in inhumane conditions 3) most animals are processed well before their first years. The essay isn't provocative and cute, it is logically flawed and glaringly incomplete, which is the embarrassing part. The closest thing to a kernel of truth is at the end, when he talks about "one bad day" philosophy and he ruins that part by talking about eating only old animals, too (ignorance of what that means for farming ROI and also the impact of the taste/texture of the product). This essay is a steaming pile from someone that is - based on their other accomplishments - clearly smart and capable of much better, and that pisses me off.
bambax 4y ago
> Agreed, it's hard to imagine voluntarily embarrassing yourself in public as badly as the author has done here. That's a common problem on Substack, it seems. Lots of people writing long "essays" on topics they don't quite understand, but think they do.

tomtheelder 4y ago

The author says, in the introduction, "this entire essay is ridiculous." You are taking it much too seriously. It's all meant in a joking way just to explore some sillier ideas around animal ethics that may or may not have a kernel of value hidden in them. Nothing about this article is embarrassing, unless you intentionally misconstrue the tone and intentions of the author.

throwaway5752 4y ago
The entire pieces is extremely embarrassing. It frames itself as ridiculous and then goes on to take itself entirely seriously. The author clearly thinks it is quite clever. I won't give it a pass. The "one bad day" movement in the meat industry is a rounding error overall production It isn't that funny when 1) wild caught seafood is crushing wild populations of fish, cephalopods, and shellfish 2) nearly all meat is raised industrially and the livestock live in inhumane conditions 3) most animals are processed well before their first years. The essay isn't provocative and cute, it is logically flawed and glaringly incomplete, which is the embarrassing part. The closest thing to a kernel of truth is at the end, when he talks about "one bad day" philosophy and he ruins that part by talking about eating only old animals, too (ignorance of what that means for farming ROI and also the impact of the taste/texture of the product). This essay is a steaming pile from someone that is - based on their other accomplishments - clearly smart and capable of much better, and that pisses me off.

bambax 4y ago

> Agreed, it's hard to imagine voluntarily embarrassing yourself in public as badly as the author has done here. That's a common problem on Substack, it seems. Lots of people writing long "essays" on topics they don't quite understand, but think they do.