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Rocks when dropped will eventually fall. You can catch the rock and hold on to it, but will eventually put it down, you can do something crazy like build a wind

Rocks when dropped will eventually fall. You can catch the rock and hold on to it, but will eventually put it down, you can do something crazy like build a wind machine that keeps the rock afloat, but entropy demands the machine go out one day and the rock will fall. Best case is you catch the rock, and put it down gently so it doesn't break, but rock will go down.

hedora 4y ago
In this analogy, political corruption is playing the role of gravity. Covid could have been prevented by mechanisms that Trump removed. The US inexplicably kept juicing the economy with zero interest rates through the end of Obama and all of Trump. 2008 could have been prevented by depression-era regulations that were removed due to heavy lobbying and traceable payments to (bipartisan) politicians. Whatever bubbles pop next (crypto seems likely to be one of them) will probably have been fueled by that same deregulation.
- namelessoracle 4y ago
  This is beyond political corruption, it's human corruption. Inherent to the way people respond to incentives. People inherently will try to put things to their benefit and to what incentives them. It takes a lot of structure to make the cost benefit of the incentives to outweigh the perceived benefits. It starts with something relatively good, but slightly pushed and snowballs from there. "I got stuff done that fed all these people! Surely making sure i get a little extra food is fair.....". Maybe someone notices and say "thats not fair", then why would the person go through a bunch of effort to make sure everyone is fed again and not just themselves? Altruism? Every social structure ever created to stop this has failed in Human history, its reasonable to say every one that will ever get created will. They will be exposed to powerful forces of erosion and entropy. Maybe you can get a machine system that rules over humans that has different incentives or something, but any system that seeks to curb corruption will fall sooner or later. You can try to make in the system a desire to repair itself, but that in itself becomes an incentive and then we see purges. You can build a tower to keep your rock up and defy gravity, but that tower WILL fall one day.
deltasevennine 4y ago
An analogy can only serve to clarify a concept. If I'm already aware of a concept, then the analogy is deceptive. It serves no logical purpose other then to deceive. It literally serves no other purpose. For some reason when humans hear an analogy there is a slight catharsis when the brain puts two puzzle pieces together and relates the analogy to the original concept. This catharsis serves to delude the brain into thinking the analogy serves as supporting evidence when it is in fact nothing. Can you prove that the business cycle is inevitable? Why would an analogy prove anything? I also literally said that there have been methods used to stop the business cycle. And yes these methods have been successful at completely impeding it... but at great cost. It's called communism. So literally I've proved the statement wrong by showing the existence of a counter example. The proof hints at the possibility that there are other systems besides capitalism or communism that are undiscovered or not created yet that could impede the business cycle without the associated cost. Others could say that communism as defined by the manifesto was never really implemented or that the current examples of communism failed for different reasons OTHER then communism. Either way, the cycle being inevitable is categorically false.

hedora 4y ago

In this analogy, political corruption is playing the role of gravity. Covid could have been prevented by mechanisms that Trump removed. The US inexplicably kept juicing the economy with zero interest rates through the end of Obama and all of Trump. 2008 could have been prevented by depression-era regulations that were removed due to heavy lobbying and traceable payments to (bipartisan) politicians. Whatever bubbles pop next (crypto seems likely to be one of them) will probably have been fueled by that same deregulation.

namelessoracle 4y ago
This is beyond political corruption, it's human corruption. Inherent to the way people respond to incentives. People inherently will try to put things to their benefit and to what incentives them. It takes a lot of structure to make the cost benefit of the incentives to outweigh the perceived benefits. It starts with something relatively good, but slightly pushed and snowballs from there. "I got stuff done that fed all these people! Surely making sure i get a little extra food is fair.....". Maybe someone notices and say "thats not fair", then why would the person go through a bunch of effort to make sure everyone is fed again and not just themselves? Altruism? Every social structure ever created to stop this has failed in Human history, its reasonable to say every one that will ever get created will. They will be exposed to powerful forces of erosion and entropy. Maybe you can get a machine system that rules over humans that has different incentives or something, but any system that seeks to curb corruption will fall sooner or later. You can try to make in the system a desire to repair itself, but that in itself becomes an incentive and then we see purges. You can build a tower to keep your rock up and defy gravity, but that tower WILL fall one day.

deltasevennine 4y ago

An analogy can only serve to clarify a concept. If I'm already aware of a concept, then the analogy is deceptive. It serves no logical purpose other then to deceive. It literally serves no other purpose. For some reason when humans hear an analogy there is a slight catharsis when the brain puts two puzzle pieces together and relates the analogy to the original concept. This catharsis serves to delude the brain into thinking the analogy serves as supporting evidence when it is in fact nothing. Can you prove that the business cycle is inevitable? Why would an analogy prove anything? I also literally said that there have been methods used to stop the business cycle. And yes these methods have been successful at completely impeding it... but at great cost. It's called communism. So literally I've proved the statement wrong by showing the existence of a counter example. The proof hints at the possibility that there are other systems besides capitalism or communism that are undiscovered or not created yet that could impede the business cycle without the associated cost. Others could say that communism as defined by the manifesto was never really implemented or that the current examples of communism failed for different reasons OTHER then communism. Either way, the cycle being inevitable is categorically false.