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The question comes down to this: is a life full of suffering, torture, violence, and misery better than no life at all? For me, the answer is no.
by dsabanin 4y ago
The question comes down to this: is a life full of suffering, torture, violence, and misery better than no life at all? For me, the answer is no.
- krona 4y agoA meaningful life is impossible without suffering.
- dsabanin 4y agoSure, but what meaning is derived by causing the unbearable suffering, mutilation, and murder of billions of fellow conscious beings on this planet just for the sake of pleasing your taste buds?
- decafninja 4y agoWhile certainly not the majority, some livestock are actually treated quite well until the point of slaughter. On the other side, many wild herbivores and prey animals live lives in an almost perpetual state of alertness and fear, just a moment away from being viciously torn apart and eaten alive.
- danielbln 4y agoAccording to the Humane Society of the United States, approximately 99% of chickens used for meat in the United States are raised in factory farms. According to the National Council for Animal Protection, over 99% of beef farmed for meat comes from cows that live in horrific factory farm environments. This doesn't necessarily clash with what you said, but I feel it bares pointing out that less than 1% of feedstock is NOT kept in conditions that perpetuate a state of fear and alertness (basically all factory farming is like that).
- LunaSea 4y ago[flagged]
- peterbraden 4y agoActually the article is asking whether a good but curtailed life is better than no life at all. Which is a more interesting question.
- dundarious 4y agoThe important point is that that is a hypothetical. In the US for example, that hypothetical is incredibly far from present reality.
- Sporktacular 4y agoActually they refer to suffering as one alternative a few times: "Even if, on net, the humans in the alien world suffer, is oblivion really the preferable alternative to net suffering? Especially if you could alleviate that suffering through action?"
- golemotron 4y agoNatalism versus Anti-Natalism will become a key political flashpoint in our near future. One can argue that it already has.