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Thank you, this gave me a lot to think about. This feels like a strong claim given the source: > Medical personnel at hospitals and clinics across the city we

Thank you, this gave me a lot to think about. This feels like a strong claim given the source: > Medical personnel at hospitals and clinics across the city were informed to only report suspect cases if they were linked to the market. These details have been publicly confirmed (see above) Source: https://archive.ph/iMQVD https://archive.ph/iMQVD Their sources are: > Liu Yue ( pseudonym at the request of the interviewee ), director of the emergency department of a tertiary hospital in Wuhan, told reporters that after the New Year's Day holiday, the hospital held a meeting, and the director of the department attended the meeting. The hospital leaders verbally conveyed to them a "reporting standard" for "unknown viral pneumonia"." > Li Xia ( pseudonym ) , director of the emergency department of another tertiary hospital , also confirmed to reporters that on January 3, the hospital held a similar meeting. > "The leadership of the hospital requires that this reporting standard can only be communicated through face-to-face, telephone, or WeChat voice." Li Xia said. This is a strong claim. Is it true? Is there any evidence for this other than two pseudonymous reports?

ayjchan 4y ago
Yes, there is much more evidence. My medium blog also cites the Chinese CDC in early 2020 and the China-WHO joint report, both of which corroborate the fact that case definitions used in Dec 2019 to mid-Jan 2020 required a link to the market or at least that the patient had to be admitted to a hospital near the market or live in the neighborhood of the market. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8393104/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8393104/ https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-sars-cov-2-china-part-annexes.pdf?sfvrsn=3065bcd8_5 https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-con... (pages 125 and 161)
- ayjchan 4y ago
  This is stated most explicitly in the China-WHO joint report (page 42): https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-sars-cov-2-china-part-joint-report.pdf https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-con... "In the first days of the epidemic in Wuhan, cases were identified on the basis of clinical features, including fever and acute respiratory symptoms, radiology and epidemiological features. An association with the Huanan market was identified among some of the earliest recognized cases and, for a short period until mid-January 2020, exposure to the Huanan market was included in the case definition. It rapidly became clear, however, that there were cases without a link to the Huanan market, and this element of the definition was dropped a few days after being introduced (Annex E3)."

ayjchan 4y ago

Yes, there is much more evidence. My medium blog also cites the Chinese CDC in early 2020 and the China-WHO joint report, both of which corroborate the fact that case definitions used in Dec 2019 to mid-Jan 2020 required a link to the market or at least that the patient had to be admitted to a hospital near the market or live in the neighborhood of the market. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8393104/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8393104/ https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-sars-cov-2-china-part-annexes.pdf?sfvrsn=3065bcd8_5 https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-con... (pages 125 and 161)

ayjchan 4y ago
This is stated most explicitly in the China-WHO joint report (page 42): https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-sars-cov-2-china-part-joint-report.pdf https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-con... "In the first days of the epidemic in Wuhan, cases were identified on the basis of clinical features, including fever and acute respiratory symptoms, radiology and epidemiological features. An association with the Huanan market was identified among some of the earliest recognized cases and, for a short period until mid-January 2020, exposure to the Huanan market was included in the case definition. It rapidly became clear, however, that there were cases without a link to the Huanan market, and this element of the definition was dropped a few days after being introduced (Annex E3)."