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It's similar to global warming/climate change. Moving from the former to the latter wasn't some nefarious plot to move the goalposts. The former is an imprecise

It's similar to global warming/climate change. Moving from the former to the latter wasn't some nefarious plot to move the goalposts. The former is an imprecise term which hadn't mattered very much until that imprecision began to be weaponized by those with an agenda. Same thing with vaccines, the previous definition was inaccurate--but up until the covid vaccines, nobody pretended to be bothered by it. There hasn't been any notable effort to discredit flu vaccines because they don't offer permanent, or even particularly reliable immunity in the many years that they have existed. Along came the anti covid vaccine folks to weaponize the inaccurate definition--so, in response, the definition is updated to be more accurate.

ifyoubuildit 4y ago
> nobody pretended to be bothered by it How often do you get to a successful resolution of a dispute when you start from the position that one side's concerns are made up (pretended, imagined, etc)? > There hasn't been any notable effort to discredit flu vaccines because they don't offer permanent, or even particularly reliable immunity in the many years that they have existed. These are the reasons that I never opted to get the flu shot, and I never had my professional and social lives threatened as a result.
- bandyaboot 4y ago
  > How often do you get to a successful resolution of a dispute when you start from the position that one side's concerns are made up (pretended, imagined, etc)? There are times when one side's concerns are nonsense. Brainwashed Russians believing Ukraine is overrun by Nazis. People who believe that the 2020 election was stolen. I choose not to gaslight myself into entertaining that nonsense and entertaining the notion that there's a successful resolution to be had.
  - ifyoubuildit 4y ago
    > There are times when one side's concerns are nonsense I envy your confidence. I also hope I never find myself under your authority.
    - bandyaboot 4y ago
      > I also hope I never find myself under your authority. Luckily I have no interest in being an authority over anyone--too much expectation of coddling the underlings.

ifyoubuildit 4y ago

> nobody pretended to be bothered by it How often do you get to a successful resolution of a dispute when you start from the position that one side's concerns are made up (pretended, imagined, etc)? > There hasn't been any notable effort to discredit flu vaccines because they don't offer permanent, or even particularly reliable immunity in the many years that they have existed. These are the reasons that I never opted to get the flu shot, and I never had my professional and social lives threatened as a result.

bandyaboot 4y ago
> How often do you get to a successful resolution of a dispute when you start from the position that one side's concerns are made up (pretended, imagined, etc)? There are times when one side's concerns are nonsense. Brainwashed Russians believing Ukraine is overrun by Nazis. People who believe that the 2020 election was stolen. I choose not to gaslight myself into entertaining that nonsense and entertaining the notion that there's a successful resolution to be had.
- ifyoubuildit 4y ago
  > There are times when one side's concerns are nonsense I envy your confidence. I also hope I never find myself under your authority.
  - bandyaboot 4y ago
    > I also hope I never find myself under your authority. Luckily I have no interest in being an authority over anyone--too much expectation of coddling the underlings.