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Right, and not injecting the money would have a negative long-term effect. I'm saying while it's difficult to be sure, it's at least reasonable to conclude that

Right, and not injecting the money would have a negative long-term effect. I'm saying while it's difficult to be sure, it's at least reasonable to conclude that we traded a short term disaster for smaller long-term pain. Maybe you disagree, but I don't get why people are acting like this is sinister.

andrew_ 4y ago
it would seem that you are basing aspects of argument on feelings, perceived individual benefit, and speculation. That's not a debate I'm interested in engaging in. I prefer to look at the facts as they are at present.
- librish 4y ago
  But how can you argue that we're living in a world that's worse than if we hadn't done the stimulus when you haven't lived in that world?
  - andrew_ 4y ago
    I'm not and have not argued that. That's where I believe you may be leading with emotion.
    - librish 4y ago
      As an aside it's pretty bad form to accuse the person you're talking to be emotional. It's implies that your argument is logical and correct, and the other person's is incorrectly clouded. Can you clarify what your argument about the stimulus is then?
      - andrew_ 4y ago
        As an aside it's pretty bad form to continue to try and draw a person into an argument they've repeatedly stated they're not attempting to make nor have interest in joining. Stop trying to make fetch happen. I have no argument for, against, nor interest in engaging in the shaving of a yak that is bald. You're in a debate with a single participant.
        librish 4y ago
        I'm not trying to "draw" you into an argument, I'm responding to my best faith interpretations of your posts. That is not considered bad form. That you refuse to clarify and call me emotional is.
0x7265616374 4y ago
Why are your kind so desperate to spin this situation into anything remotely positive? Is it buyer's remorse? Tribalism? Desperation? We're in deep shit. A lot of people saw it coming, a lot of people ignored the warnings. A lot of people tried to spin this like it was no big deal "nothing to see here, all is well." It doesn't matter if this is a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-dont - we're in the shit now, and that's all that matters.

andrew_ 4y ago

it would seem that you are basing aspects of argument on feelings, perceived individual benefit, and speculation. That's not a debate I'm interested in engaging in. I prefer to look at the facts as they are at present.

librish 4y ago
But how can you argue that we're living in a world that's worse than if we hadn't done the stimulus when you haven't lived in that world?
- andrew_ 4y ago
  I'm not and have not argued that. That's where I believe you may be leading with emotion.
  - librish 4y ago
    As an aside it's pretty bad form to accuse the person you're talking to be emotional. It's implies that your argument is logical and correct, and the other person's is incorrectly clouded. Can you clarify what your argument about the stimulus is then?
    - andrew_ 4y ago
      As an aside it's pretty bad form to continue to try and draw a person into an argument they've repeatedly stated they're not attempting to make nor have interest in joining. Stop trying to make fetch happen. I have no argument for, against, nor interest in engaging in the shaving of a yak that is bald. You're in a debate with a single participant.
      - librish 4y ago
        I'm not trying to "draw" you into an argument, I'm responding to my best faith interpretations of your posts. That is not considered bad form. That you refuse to clarify and call me emotional is.

0x7265616374 4y ago

Why are your kind so desperate to spin this situation into anything remotely positive? Is it buyer's remorse? Tribalism? Desperation? We're in deep shit. A lot of people saw it coming, a lot of people ignored the warnings. A lot of people tried to spin this like it was no big deal "nothing to see here, all is well." It doesn't matter if this is a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-dont - we're in the shit now, and that's all that matters.