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Regardless of what you think about the question, just think about the narcissism required to be one of the richest people on the planet and even in the history

by bmitc 4y ago

Regardless of what you think about the question, just think about the narcissism required to be one of the richest people on the planet and even in the history of mankind but yet respond to questions like this. Like, there's not one iota of empathy in any of his recent statements. These people treat their corporation like it's a machine and that the people are completely expendable. For example, look at his recent statement about people being at Facebook that probably shouldn't be there. Well, Mark, you're the CEO. Why is Facebook hiring people that shouldn't be there or not putting them on performance plans prior to the announcement of "turning up the heat"? The fact that he needs to make that statement reflects poorly on him and the leadership, and the fact that he actually made the statement shows that he has contempt for his own employees.

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wollsmoth 4y ago
It is this weird move that is probably going to eat at people who are insecure about their own productivity. Is this an environment where employees can really lock in and focus on their tasks at hand?
drewcoo 4y ago
I don't like Zuck. But a couple of things to consider here: 1. Lacking apparent empathy is not narcissism. It doesn't even mean he doesn't have empathy, in fact. 2. If he admitted that management had made mistakes it would affect the stock price.
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- bmitc 4y ago
  Lacking empathy is one of the major characteristics or symptoms of narcissistic personality disorders. I think it is a weird semantical argument to say someone could have empathy but never showcase it.
_jal 4y ago
This is a classic CEO temperature-shift. Not sure if there's a name for the tactic, but I've seen it before and suspect many others here have. It signals a shift from expansion to contraction. You naturally also see this tactic around layoffs. My first experience was after about 25% of the startup I was working for went away. At the "after" all-hands, the CEO went from friendly optimist to angry boss, using notable lines about how if people want cushy jobs, they should go work for the post office. The logic is clearly that, when the pie is shrinking, inducing more fear makes employees more pliable. You're going to lose the good ones, of course.
- gonzo41 4y ago
  Ignoring the pop-pysch correlation of CEO's to sociopaths, I think that seeing your business going through a contraction would be pretty stressful for a CEO. It's a moment where you actually have to not just fly at cruising settings but actually do stuff and hustle. This is a moment for facebook where things could just start to slide and slide away. Zuck strikes me as a guy who whilst smart, is also kinda lucky and benefiting greatly from the other smart people who work for him. But facebook is causing many social problems and hard working people who do sit back in their chair's probably have the 'are we the baddies' moment pretty often. If a critical peer group of his leave, he'll start to feel a stranger in his own company. It's going to be an interesting time for us in the cheap seats.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    It's quite a note about a CEO that, when faced with actually having to do his job, he gets mad at his employees.
    - gonzo41 4y ago
      You earn millions of dollars for essentially keeping the trains running on time by instructing your minions to keep the trains on time, and then the market says we need new tracks and new trains and everyone's getting off your trains. You'd be grumpy too, when the minions look at you and ask for a spec and a strategy and you realize your going to have to do work for the first time ever. Consider MSFT, not the biggest fan but, they make stuff and can change and improve your life with it. They have a revenue of ~200bn, Meta is ~80bn, but what do they actually make? It's not a totally worthless company but it's been trading on the fact it got to be the first decent social graph company for the last two decades.
NCC1701DEngage 4y ago
If the company was doin' a heckin' success he'd probably be a less grumpy boi. But as it stands the company is flailing publicly in a very noticeable way with the Metaverse and Oculus and the (frankly insane and ridiculous) push for VR. Their main brand is now such a joke that they are trying to change the name of the company (unsuccessfully; I've seen FAANG used more than once here in the last couple days). I think it is possible that the stench of failure from the Metaverse is going to start to infect their remaining successful brand: IG. No wonder Mark is a grumpy boi.
- iamben 4y ago
  > I think it is possible that the stench of failure from the Metaverse is going to start to infect their remaining successful brand: IG. A quick search on Twitter shows the current feeling towards IG. That tone deaf "we're shifting to video" (meaning, "we're trying to be TikTok") announcement yesterday(?) went down terribly. And that Axios article yesterday(?) - FB trying to pivot everything into seeing less of the friends/people you choose to follow and more 'content creators'. But honestly, pausing to watch a man smashing melons on his head because it's been pushed in your face is worth about as much as the native ads with a scandalous picture on them - super high click through rate, nobody backs out on the offer. Everyone ends up unhappy.
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by bmitc 4y ago

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wollsmoth 4y ago

It is this weird move that is probably going to eat at people who are insecure about their own productivity. Is this an environment where employees can really lock in and focus on their tasks at hand?

drewcoo 4y ago

I don't like Zuck. But a couple of things to consider here: 1. Lacking apparent empathy is not narcissism. It doesn't even mean he doesn't have empathy, in fact. 2. If he admitted that management had made mistakes it would affect the stock price.

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bmitc 4y ago
Lacking empathy is one of the major characteristics or symptoms of narcissistic personality disorders. I think it is a weird semantical argument to say someone could have empathy but never showcase it.

_jal 4y ago

This is a classic CEO temperature-shift. Not sure if there's a name for the tactic, but I've seen it before and suspect many others here have. It signals a shift from expansion to contraction. You naturally also see this tactic around layoffs. My first experience was after about 25% of the startup I was working for went away. At the "after" all-hands, the CEO went from friendly optimist to angry boss, using notable lines about how if people want cushy jobs, they should go work for the post office. The logic is clearly that, when the pie is shrinking, inducing more fear makes employees more pliable. You're going to lose the good ones, of course.

gonzo41 4y ago
Ignoring the pop-pysch correlation of CEO's to sociopaths, I think that seeing your business going through a contraction would be pretty stressful for a CEO. It's a moment where you actually have to not just fly at cruising settings but actually do stuff and hustle. This is a moment for facebook where things could just start to slide and slide away. Zuck strikes me as a guy who whilst smart, is also kinda lucky and benefiting greatly from the other smart people who work for him. But facebook is causing many social problems and hard working people who do sit back in their chair's probably have the 'are we the baddies' moment pretty often. If a critical peer group of his leave, he'll start to feel a stranger in his own company. It's going to be an interesting time for us in the cheap seats.
- falcolas 4y ago
  It's quite a note about a CEO that, when faced with actually having to do his job, he gets mad at his employees.
  - gonzo41 4y ago
    You earn millions of dollars for essentially keeping the trains running on time by instructing your minions to keep the trains on time, and then the market says we need new tracks and new trains and everyone's getting off your trains. You'd be grumpy too, when the minions look at you and ask for a spec and a strategy and you realize your going to have to do work for the first time ever. Consider MSFT, not the biggest fan but, they make stuff and can change and improve your life with it. They have a revenue of ~200bn, Meta is ~80bn, but what do they actually make? It's not a totally worthless company but it's been trading on the fact it got to be the first decent social graph company for the last two decades.

NCC1701DEngage 4y ago

If the company was doin' a heckin' success he'd probably be a less grumpy boi. But as it stands the company is flailing publicly in a very noticeable way with the Metaverse and Oculus and the (frankly insane and ridiculous) push for VR. Their main brand is now such a joke that they are trying to change the name of the company (unsuccessfully; I've seen FAANG used more than once here in the last couple days). I think it is possible that the stench of failure from the Metaverse is going to start to infect their remaining successful brand: IG. No wonder Mark is a grumpy boi.

iamben 4y ago
> I think it is possible that the stench of failure from the Metaverse is going to start to infect their remaining successful brand: IG. A quick search on Twitter shows the current feeling towards IG. That tone deaf "we're shifting to video" (meaning, "we're trying to be TikTok") announcement yesterday(?) went down terribly. And that Axios article yesterday(?) - FB trying to pivot everything into seeing less of the friends/people you choose to follow and more 'content creators'. But honestly, pausing to watch a man smashing melons on his head because it's been pushed in your face is worth about as much as the native ads with a scandalous picture on them - super high click through rate, nobody backs out on the offer. Everyone ends up unhappy.
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