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I had been feeling that way until I worked on a project that uses modern React and realized that a lot of other stuff is becoming this way. At least with Swift

I had been feeling that way until I worked on a project that uses modern React and realized that a lot of other stuff is becoming this way. At least with Swift the compiler helps you along a lot and you can lookup most language concepts easily without them being so out of date. That said I really wish the tooling would keep up. Debugging stuff like SwiftUI and async/await code is really painful right now. It feels like they keep adding this stuff without updating the tools we need to have available to really support it. This is in stark contrast to what was/is available for Objective-C and UIKit with the debugger and instruments. I'm not sure it's a good tradeoff... The high level code becomes a lot easier to read and write but keeping a mental model of what's happening is a lot harder and it becomes very thorny when things go sideways.

marcellus23 4y ago
This is my biggest problem with the state of Apple's developer ecosystem right now. The tooling is just pathetic — I love writing in Swift, UIKit, AppKit and SwiftUI, but it can really feel like the tools are fighting you. They're just not dumping nearly enough effort into making their tooling top-notch. There's an extremely stark contrast between Xcode and Android Studio any time you need to do refactoring, for example. Xcode's refactoring tools are both limited and very very finnicky (to the point of being basically useless).
- ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
  Xcode is a bug farm. A HUGE bug farm. Whenever it gets an update, I might as well just go out and catch a show. When I switched to an M1-based computer, the debugging became much finickier. I suspect that this is an OS problem, as opposed to an Xcode problem (because it happens with other System-calling apps), but sometimes, spun processes seem to hang, and I can bang away on "Force Quit," until I'm blue in the face. Nothing but a hardware restart (I can't do a soft one) fixes it. But Xcode brings the beast out on that one. It hangs and stutters quite frequently.

marcellus23 4y ago

This is my biggest problem with the state of Apple's developer ecosystem right now. The tooling is just pathetic — I love writing in Swift, UIKit, AppKit and SwiftUI, but it can really feel like the tools are fighting you. They're just not dumping nearly enough effort into making their tooling top-notch. There's an extremely stark contrast between Xcode and Android Studio any time you need to do refactoring, for example. Xcode's refactoring tools are both limited and very very finnicky (to the point of being basically useless).

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
Xcode is a bug farm. A HUGE bug farm. Whenever it gets an update, I might as well just go out and catch a show. When I switched to an M1-based computer, the debugging became much finickier. I suspect that this is an OS problem, as opposed to an Xcode problem (because it happens with other System-calling apps), but sometimes, spun processes seem to hang, and I can bang away on "Force Quit," until I'm blue in the face. Nothing but a hardware restart (I can't do a soft one) fixes it. But Xcode brings the beast out on that one. It hangs and stutters quite frequently.