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For what it's worth, I respectfully disagree. The people Thiel should have gone after are those who leaked to the public. I can't say I read Gawker or was a fa
by derbOac 4y ago
For what it's worth, I respectfully disagree. The people Thiel should have gone after are those who leaked to the public.
I can't say I read Gawker or was a fan of what they did, or saying it was morally upstanding. But they were the wrong target. It was bizarre to me that Thiel would go after them, except if you look at it as Thiel not really caring about the actual spread of information, and instead look at it as Thiel scaring away any sort of journalist or journalistic organization from scrutinizing him at all on any controversial topics. It just seemed like a classic case of defending the freedom of speech of the morally questionable to protect freedom of speech in general.
I don't remember the Hogan case in detail as it's been awhile, but to me Gawker was not the really offending person. It was whoever recorded that. Why Thiel went after Gawker rather than the person who clearly violated expectations of privacy in a way that might land them in jail in many districts is beyond me.
- Fargoan 4y agoIf someone secretly recorded you having consensual sex and sold me the footage, you think I have a right to publish that. That's ridiculous. Gawker got what they deserved.
- a2tech 4y agoThey didn't pay for it--someone (probably Bubba the Love Sponge) anonymously sent them the footage. He was legally able to record his own home.
- causi 4y agoFlorida is a two-party consent state. Everyone featured in a recording not happening in public must consent to being recorded. Both Hogan and Heather claim they didn't know.
- Fargoan 4y agoOk, well same thing. Hogan was invited over to have sex with Bubba's wife and Bubba secretly filmed it and sent it to a media company.
- cagenut 4y agoare you a world renowned celebrity who goes on radio shows on a near weekly basis to brag about your sexual exploits and genital size to millions of people?
- Fargoan 4y agoNo. Who are you referring to? How is that relevant?
- pauldenton 4y agoHave you heard Hulk Hogan speaking to Bubba the Love Sponge on radio It is informative to the case
- Fargoan 4y agoI haven't. I doubt he gave consent to be recorded and then have that video distributed. So I don't see how it's relevant.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y agoGawker boasted that they won’t remove the video, no matter what, even after Hogan asked them. They 100% deserved what they got.
- cagenut 4y agothis is incorrect you're mixing several separate facts into one false narrative gawker repeatedly offered to settle with hogan, but for some strange reason* hogan refused to and kept appealing and moving venues. during these appeals and negotiations a judge required gawker take the video down which they did. the judge then also required gawker take the post (ascii text) down as well, which they refused to do. * it turned out hogan was just a front for thiel and taking down the video was not really the goal, bankrupting the parent company of valleywag was.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y ago“A Judge Told Us to Take Down Our Hulk Hogan Sex Tape Post. We Won't.” - https://www.gawker.com/a-judge-told-us-to-take-down-our-hulk-hogan-sex-tape-po-481328088 https://www.gawker.com/a-judge-told-us-to-take-down-our-hulk...
- Linosaurus 4y agoThey refused to remove a text article describing the video. From your link: "A lawful order from a circuit court judge is a serious thing. While we vehemently disagree with Campbell's order with respect to the video itself, we have chosen to take it down pending our appeal. But the portion of the order compelling us to remove the entirety of Daulerio's post—his words, his speech—is grossly unconstitutional. We won't take it down"
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- boredumb 4y agoIf I recall correctly, they publicly outed Thiel as a gay man, so I assumed that put them on his radar and he saw the Hogan incident as the opportunity to go all in on them.
- a2tech 4y agoHe posted pictures of himself cavorting with naked young men on a public website. Is sharing those publicly outing him?
- cagenut 4y agoyou recall incorrectly, but its a very easy mistake to make as every thread on the topic will be riddled with that false talking point. the gay editor of gawker published the gay writer from valleywag's essay about how peter thiel was ALREADY 'out' and that everyone in silicon valley acting like it was a shameful secret that could not be mentioned was in-effect trying to put a gay man who was not in the closet back in it because of their discomfort with the topic. like everything else on the internet once the facts got rung through the social media process the conventional wisdom became the perfect inverse of the actual truth. its worth noting that thiel himself has never claimed that his 'outing' (which did not happen) was his motivation. he has however on many occasions explained his reasoning and justification as essentially viewing journalists/journalism/critical-reporting as haters that hold us all back and should be forcibly shut up. note that i'm using the word 'haters' but he actually used the word 'terrorists'.
- Dma54rhs 4y agoGawker publicly bullied and antagonized their victims. Doesn't matter what the law says its incredibly immoral, there was nothing to report.
- causi 4y agoThey wouldn't stop hosting revenge porn, didn't pay interns, doxxed thousands of New Yorkers for daring to own a gun, and all the while ran article slamming people who did all those things. It really sucks that organizations who aren't the targets of billionaires won't get the same treatment but by god it was satisfying to watch.