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Stripe is going the way of PayPal it seems. Many people learned this lesson the hard way with PayPal now they will learn it with Stripe I guess. You have no rea

by ciguy 4y ago

Stripe is going the way of PayPal it seems. Many people learned this lesson the hard way with PayPal now they will learn it with Stripe I guess. You have no real recourse when these companies decide to steal your money and their incentives are very much to do so as they get to hang onto it for extended periods. I don't think it's a coincidence that this happened as we go into economic downturn and layoffs. Too bad they're not a public company, if they were I would be shorting their stock right now.

wonderbore 4y ago
First thing I thought. PayPal is known to pull this kind of moves, now it’s Stripe’s turn to steal some money “for security.”
aga98mtl 4y ago
Stripe like paypal is not to blame in this story. The problem is the credit card payment standard. Transactions can be charged back up to 180 days. This means that by giving the merchant the money right away, Stripe runs the risk that a transaction will be charged back and that the merchant wont have fund to cover it. Stripe like any other processor runs an algo to determine the risk profile of each transaction to decide if you get the money immediately or not. If you have a sudden high ticket transaction, the odds this will be charged back are much higher. This is why they freeze that money up to 180 days. It sucks, but it is how the credit card system works. Someone has to cover the chargeback risk.
- zht 4y ago
  the solution isn't to blackhole your customer for 180 days. it's to provide a human being to talk to or ask for clarifying information
  - skc 4y ago
    I guess the argument then becomes one of scalability.
    - tpxl 4y ago
      If you can't scale customer support, you can't scale period.
- elcritch 4y ago
  Sounds like they also closed the account as well.
- ciguy 4y ago
  Temporarily freezing the funds is understandable, just long enough to ask for clarification or documentation from the merchant. Instead they decided to go the Google route of ignoring your customer because "algorithm said no".

by ciguy 4y ago

wonderbore 4y ago

First thing I thought. PayPal is known to pull this kind of moves, now it’s Stripe’s turn to steal some money “for security.”

aga98mtl 4y ago

Stripe like paypal is not to blame in this story. The problem is the credit card payment standard. Transactions can be charged back up to 180 days. This means that by giving the merchant the money right away, Stripe runs the risk that a transaction will be charged back and that the merchant wont have fund to cover it. Stripe like any other processor runs an algo to determine the risk profile of each transaction to decide if you get the money immediately or not. If you have a sudden high ticket transaction, the odds this will be charged back are much higher. This is why they freeze that money up to 180 days. It sucks, but it is how the credit card system works. Someone has to cover the chargeback risk.

zht 4y ago
the solution isn't to blackhole your customer for 180 days. it's to provide a human being to talk to or ask for clarifying information
- skc 4y ago
  I guess the argument then becomes one of scalability.
  - tpxl 4y ago
    If you can't scale customer support, you can't scale period.
elcritch 4y ago
Sounds like they also closed the account as well.
ciguy 4y ago
Temporarily freezing the funds is understandable, just long enough to ask for clarification or documentation from the merchant. Instead they decided to go the Google route of ignoring your customer because "algorithm said no".