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> maternal mortality it does not it's 11.7 per 100,000 in California and 7 per 100,000 in Germany. Despite similar spending per capita in healthcare. > Cons

> maternal mortality it does not it's 11.7 per 100,000 in California and 7 per 100,000 in Germany. Despite similar spending per capita in healthcare. > Considering that Californian children are no less sheltered They come from families that on average are a lot more wealthy than the average German family and live in a much more pleasant weather. Bit apples to oranges.

renewiltord 4y ago
The 11.7 is the PRMR measure from CA-PMSS, which is far stricter than the definition used in Germany. The corresponding rate using the same definition as in Germany was ~6 / 100k in California. Easy mistake to make, though, since you have to be aware of definitional differences. A start to that is here: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/surveillance/CDPH%20Document%20Library/CA-PMSS/CA-PMSS-Surveillance-Report-2008-2016.pdf https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/surveillance/CDPH... But you'll have to go read the guidelines to read the difference.
- wzdd 4y ago
  It seems like you have written quite a few comments engaging with people here in an attempt to demonstrate that, by your own data, a difference in maternal mortality of 1 in 100 000, when comparing a single American state to a single European country, may be evidence that European nudity-tolerant attitudes to child-rearing may not result in improved critical thinking skills in European adults. If this doesn't seem like a stretch to you, by all means continue.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  The easy mistake is taking for granted US skewed units of measures, I simply posted official stats from International organizations that normalize data across different countries and use standard methodologies. Anyway your numbers are not better than Germany, but also: What country has the highest rate of maternal mortality? The U.S. Key Findings: The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate among developed countries. Average US mortality rate is 17/100,000 Average European mortality rate is 8/100,000 Remember that in Europe live at least a hundred million more people than in US an it includes much less developed countries than any US State. Yet the US average is two times worse than EU and 8.2 (EIGHT!) times worse than Belarus (BELARUS!), Poland or my country, Italy. You know who's got the same stats of US? Russia. Yes. That Russia. US maternal mortality rate is the same of Russia, despite spending billions over billions more on healthcare. Despite being considered a third World country from the American POV. To put things in perspective for you: Turkmenistan MMR is 10, in Iran is 16, in Tajikistan is 17 (same of the USA). Can a certain kind of mentality against women bodies considered "unholy" be the cause of it? Just asking, I don't know the answer.

renewiltord 4y ago

The 11.7 is the PRMR measure from CA-PMSS, which is far stricter than the definition used in Germany. The corresponding rate using the same definition as in Germany was ~6 / 100k in California. Easy mistake to make, though, since you have to be aware of definitional differences. A start to that is here: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/surveillance/CDPH%20Document%20Library/CA-PMSS/CA-PMSS-Surveillance-Report-2008-2016.pdf https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DMCAH/surveillance/CDPH... But you'll have to go read the guidelines to read the difference.

wzdd 4y ago
It seems like you have written quite a few comments engaging with people here in an attempt to demonstrate that, by your own data, a difference in maternal mortality of 1 in 100 000, when comparing a single American state to a single European country, may be evidence that European nudity-tolerant attitudes to child-rearing may not result in improved critical thinking skills in European adults. If this doesn't seem like a stretch to you, by all means continue.
peoplefromibiza 4y ago
The easy mistake is taking for granted US skewed units of measures, I simply posted official stats from International organizations that normalize data across different countries and use standard methodologies. Anyway your numbers are not better than Germany, but also: What country has the highest rate of maternal mortality? The U.S. Key Findings: The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate among developed countries. Average US mortality rate is 17/100,000 Average European mortality rate is 8/100,000 Remember that in Europe live at least a hundred million more people than in US an it includes much less developed countries than any US State. Yet the US average is two times worse than EU and 8.2 (EIGHT!) times worse than Belarus (BELARUS!), Poland or my country, Italy. You know who's got the same stats of US? Russia. Yes. That Russia. US maternal mortality rate is the same of Russia, despite spending billions over billions more on healthcare. Despite being considered a third World country from the American POV. To put things in perspective for you: Turkmenistan MMR is 10, in Iran is 16, in Tajikistan is 17 (same of the USA). Can a certain kind of mentality against women bodies considered "unholy" be the cause of it? Just asking, I don't know the answer.