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Microsoft approves WinMo 7 rooting app

23 points by taylorbuley 15y ago

polyfractal 15y ago
As an avid WP7 user, this is completely awesome.
- untog 15y ago
  As a relative newbie to WP7, is there actually anything of interest to do with it right now? I get that there is a ton of potential for the future, but I haven't seen any interesting root apps yet.
  - polyfractal 15y ago
    You're right, I don't believe there is much you can do with a jail-broken WP7 phone yet. Tangentially, you can also accomplish a similar "jailbreaking" by registering with App Hub and making your phone a developer phone. If you are a student you can get a year free of App Hub through DreamSpark too
prashantv 15y ago
While I don't like you have to pay for it, I do like the fact that your warranty isn't voided when you "unlock" the phone.
IanDrake 15y ago
My ATT contract is up in June. I've been planning on ditching my iPhone 4 for WinMo when I'm in the clear to switch back to verizon. This just makes it that much more attractive. I just hope there's some good WinMo hardware by then.
- untog 15y ago
  There is some good WinMo hardware available now... just not on Verizon. I picked up a Samsung Focus S and I'm very happy with it. Not jailbreaking yet as I can't see any really useful apps that require it. I'm sure that will come with time, though.
jamesu 15y ago
I'm still waiting for an official c/c++ sdk
- rbanffy 15y ago
  If you feel brave enough, you can port MeeGo to the Nokia WP7 handsets and boot it with this tool. Their C/C++ toolchain is excellent. ;-)
  - skl_ 15y ago
    I saw a MeeGo port running on the Nexus One, tempted: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
    - rbanffy 15y ago
      Yes, but it wouldn't make Ballmer throw a chair.
kooshball 15y ago
Windows Mobile doesnt exist anymore. It's Windows Phone now.
- lukifer 15y ago
  WinPho? Microsoft branding sucks. Phones don't even have "windows", and they're delusional if they think that Windows has a positive brand association with consumers.
  - varunsrin 15y ago
    WP7 is the acronym used instead of WinMo
    - taylorbuley 15y ago
      My bad. Noted. I did like "WinMo" quite a bit though.
skl_ 15y ago
I never thought that I'd read about Microsoft allowing something like this. There seems to be a sea change in culture towards openess amongst the Big Guys at the moment. It's unfortunate however that these companies are only beginning to invest now that their core products are at stake.
- untog 15y ago
  Although I'm happy MS is doing it, I'm absolutely positive that the only reason for it is to attract more developers to their platform and try to compete with Apple in one of the few areas they are widely regarded as deficient. I don't think it's a sign of sea change at all, sadly.
  - kooshball 15y ago
    Is "to attract more developers to their platform and try to compete with Apple" not a good enough reason?
    - untog 15y ago
      Well, it suggests that if they ever became competitive with Apple they would lose all interest in providing open access to their platform.
  - skl_ 15y ago
    By 'sea change' I'm not just referring to this instance, I'm thinking also of Silverlight and of Adobe's recent announcement about dropping Flash for mobile devices. There's also the fact that HTML5 is now a new focus for both companies (Windows 8, Adobe's authoring toolset).
- rbanffy 15y ago
  > I never thought that I'd read about Microsoft allowing something like this. Microsoft can be surprisingly open and user-friendly when it feels threatened. Right now they are fully aware of the disaster that awaits them in the long run if WP7 fails in the market - Win8 seems like a stopgap measure, aimed more towards running legacy corporate desktop applications than being a true citizen of this brave new world of simplified user experiences. It's no culture change - it's adaptation for survival.
saurik 15y ago
No. ChevronWP7 does not "root" your device; it seems to simply unlock developer access. The result is actually still quite limited: it would be nice to have "root". """Provided unlocks are equivalent to those provided by Microsoft’s App Hub. That means 10 side-loaded applications. That also means no “Interop access”.""" -- http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/12369366007/chevronwp7-labs-launch-1-update http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/12369366007/chevronwp7-labs-l...
azakai 15y ago
> This is definitely a new direction for Microsoft in many ways, and it is a cunning method for promoting the brand. It may be a tad bit risky, but it seems like the most popular mobile device makers are the ones making the boldest moves. Isn't the direction reversed in the last sentence? The popular devices are playing it safe, the unpopular devices - Windows Phone - are according to this article taking a risk and making a bold move.
freemarketteddy 15y ago
I cant help but think this is analogous to a desperate guy offering free sex and all quality women rejecting his offer! Economics 101: Supply and Demand
- deleted 15y ago
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23 points by taylorbuley 15y ago

polyfractal 15y ago

As an avid WP7 user, this is completely awesome.

untog 15y ago
As a relative newbie to WP7, is there actually anything of interest to do with it right now? I get that there is a ton of potential for the future, but I haven't seen any interesting root apps yet.
- polyfractal 15y ago
  You're right, I don't believe there is much you can do with a jail-broken WP7 phone yet. Tangentially, you can also accomplish a similar "jailbreaking" by registering with App Hub and making your phone a developer phone. If you are a student you can get a year free of App Hub through DreamSpark too

prashantv 15y ago

While I don't like you have to pay for it, I do like the fact that your warranty isn't voided when you "unlock" the phone.

IanDrake 15y ago

My ATT contract is up in June. I've been planning on ditching my iPhone 4 for WinMo when I'm in the clear to switch back to verizon. This just makes it that much more attractive. I just hope there's some good WinMo hardware by then.

untog 15y ago
There is some good WinMo hardware available now... just not on Verizon. I picked up a Samsung Focus S and I'm very happy with it. Not jailbreaking yet as I can't see any really useful apps that require it. I'm sure that will come with time, though.

jamesu 15y ago

I'm still waiting for an official c/c++ sdk

rbanffy 15y ago
If you feel brave enough, you can port MeeGo to the Nokia WP7 handsets and boot it with this tool. Their C/C++ toolchain is excellent. ;-)
- skl_ 15y ago
  I saw a MeeGo port running on the Nexus One, tempted: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
  - rbanffy 15y ago
    Yes, but it wouldn't make Ballmer throw a chair.

kooshball 15y ago

Windows Mobile doesnt exist anymore. It's Windows Phone now.

lukifer 15y ago
WinPho? Microsoft branding sucks. Phones don't even have "windows", and they're delusional if they think that Windows has a positive brand association with consumers.
- varunsrin 15y ago
  WP7 is the acronym used instead of WinMo
  - taylorbuley 15y ago
    My bad. Noted. I did like "WinMo" quite a bit though.

skl_ 15y ago

I never thought that I'd read about Microsoft allowing something like this. There seems to be a sea change in culture towards openess amongst the Big Guys at the moment. It's unfortunate however that these companies are only beginning to invest now that their core products are at stake.

untog 15y ago
Although I'm happy MS is doing it, I'm absolutely positive that the only reason for it is to attract more developers to their platform and try to compete with Apple in one of the few areas they are widely regarded as deficient. I don't think it's a sign of sea change at all, sadly.
- kooshball 15y ago
  Is "to attract more developers to their platform and try to compete with Apple" not a good enough reason?
  - untog 15y ago
    Well, it suggests that if they ever became competitive with Apple they would lose all interest in providing open access to their platform.
- skl_ 15y ago
  By 'sea change' I'm not just referring to this instance, I'm thinking also of Silverlight and of Adobe's recent announcement about dropping Flash for mobile devices. There's also the fact that HTML5 is now a new focus for both companies (Windows 8, Adobe's authoring toolset).
rbanffy 15y ago
> I never thought that I'd read about Microsoft allowing something like this. Microsoft can be surprisingly open and user-friendly when it feels threatened. Right now they are fully aware of the disaster that awaits them in the long run if WP7 fails in the market - Win8 seems like a stopgap measure, aimed more towards running legacy corporate desktop applications than being a true citizen of this brave new world of simplified user experiences. It's no culture change - it's adaptation for survival.

saurik 15y ago

No. ChevronWP7 does not "root" your device; it seems to simply unlock developer access. The result is actually still quite limited: it would be nice to have "root". """Provided unlocks are equivalent to those provided by Microsoft’s App Hub. That means 10 side-loaded applications. That also means no “Interop access”.""" -- http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/12369366007/chevronwp7-labs-launch-1-update http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/12369366007/chevronwp7-labs-l...

azakai 15y ago

> This is definitely a new direction for Microsoft in many ways, and it is a cunning method for promoting the brand. It may be a tad bit risky, but it seems like the most popular mobile device makers are the ones making the boldest moves. Isn't the direction reversed in the last sentence? The popular devices are playing it safe, the unpopular devices - Windows Phone - are according to this article taking a risk and making a bold move.

freemarketteddy 15y ago

I cant help but think this is analogous to a desperate guy offering free sex and all quality women rejecting his offer! Economics 101: Supply and Demand

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