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The reason for that seems obvious to me. Grey, steel, white and black will work in basically every kitchen. If you want a more colorful pallet in any room in yo

The reason for that seems obvious to me. Grey, steel, white and black will work in basically every kitchen. If you want a more colorful pallet in any room in your house, then you need to put a lot more thought into planning it. I think most people aren’t highly motivated to do that.

junga 4y ago
> I think most people aren’t highly motivated to do that. But they were in the past? I don't know but I wonder why this might have changed.
- somebodythere 4y ago
  No, I think people in the past probably just had a weaker preference for designs that go together in color and style.
  - towaway15463 4y ago
    That seems unlikely. Look at fashion and decor magazines from the past and you see lots of lively colours that are coordinated. If you go house hunting and see a couple houses that haven’t been updated for decades they have a definite palette.
    - lukeramsden 4y ago
      Could possibly be because most households nowadays have to be dual-income, and so there's not a dedicated homemaker with the motivation to do that.
      - datavirtue 4y ago
        Sad, like the "colors."
    - Kye 4y ago
      Magazines are a reflection of a narrow slice of reality, usually the slice that could afford to buy the stuff advertised in magazines. Anyone can buy a magazine and aspire to the lifestyles depicted, but most can only aspire.
    - watwut 4y ago
      What is in fashion or decor magazine and what people actually have in home or wear are two different things.
  - corrral 4y ago
    I think this is part of it. I don't think people (in real life, not in magazines) cared as much whether something "went with" the rest of the room. Like, I'm sure some people did, but it wasn't a normal thing for middle class folks to care much about, as far as trying to make their own house look that way. There's, relatedly, probably some effect from all those home makeover & house-buying shows, which constantly push "any 'weird' color is bad, and any room without great color coordination is bad, and it's not OK not to mind it". There's a Mitchell and Webb sketch about this, in which two home-buyers on such a show are presented a bathroom with avocado fixtures, and the host berates them over multiple takes because their initial reaction isn't as negative as it ought to be. Fiction, but there's definitely a kind of same-ness to people's reactions to any but a few acceptable colors on those shows.
- leereeves 4y ago
  I think people in the past spent less time looking at a screen and had other hobbies (like interior decorating) instead.
  - hackernewds 4y ago
    Seems like a stretch that using screens has led to a decline in interior decorating. You could argue a whole generation including men are now devolved into desk setups, plants, terrariums, "earthy colors", hygge, woodworking, aesthetics, etc through Pinterest, Instagram, etc. The same revolution has happened for the glorification of cooks -> chefs and the proliferation of home bakers
  - Macha 4y ago
    Alternatively, people in the past had fewer possesions (not out of virtuous minimialism as some people portray, but sheer economic reality), and so had more time to consider how each would fit in.
stonemetal12 4y ago
>Grey, steel, white and black will work in basically every kitchen. I don't understand that argument. My toaster only needs to work in my kitchen, not every kitchen. From a manufacture's point of view I get it. It is cheaper to produce 3 colors than 54.
- rockbruno 4y ago
  They're talking about a design perspective. People like the lime green toaster because it by itself looks nice, but if they placed it in _their_ kitchen, it would probably look absolutely ridiculous unless they're designers and know how to perfectly balance such a strong color in the room. In contrast, neutral colors will look good in any color palette and require zero design talent from your side.
- solumunus 4y ago
  We're talking about the context of this "study". If people are asked which toaster they want to take home, the vast majority of them will have a kitchen where "grey, steel, white or black" works the best, even if they prefer another color. They're not going to redesign their entire kitchen for a particular toaster.
nereye 4y ago
Would normally try to resist but, just as FYI, from https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/30/palate-palette-pallet/ https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/30/palate-palette-pallet/: palate / palette / pallet Your “palate” is the roof of your mouth, and by extension, your sense of taste. A “palette” is the flat board an artist mixes paint on (or by extension, a range of colors). A “pallet” is either a bed (now rare) or a flat platform onto which goods are loaded.
- AmericanChopper 4y ago
  Thanks. Good language correcting.

junga 4y ago

> I think most people aren’t highly motivated to do that. But they were in the past? I don't know but I wonder why this might have changed.

somebodythere 4y ago
No, I think people in the past probably just had a weaker preference for designs that go together in color and style.
- towaway15463 4y ago
  That seems unlikely. Look at fashion and decor magazines from the past and you see lots of lively colours that are coordinated. If you go house hunting and see a couple houses that haven’t been updated for decades they have a definite palette.
  - lukeramsden 4y ago
    Could possibly be because most households nowadays have to be dual-income, and so there's not a dedicated homemaker with the motivation to do that.
    - datavirtue 4y ago
      Sad, like the "colors."
  - Kye 4y ago
    Magazines are a reflection of a narrow slice of reality, usually the slice that could afford to buy the stuff advertised in magazines. Anyone can buy a magazine and aspire to the lifestyles depicted, but most can only aspire.
  - watwut 4y ago
    What is in fashion or decor magazine and what people actually have in home or wear are two different things.
- corrral 4y ago
  I think this is part of it. I don't think people (in real life, not in magazines) cared as much whether something "went with" the rest of the room. Like, I'm sure some people did, but it wasn't a normal thing for middle class folks to care much about, as far as trying to make their own house look that way. There's, relatedly, probably some effect from all those home makeover & house-buying shows, which constantly push "any 'weird' color is bad, and any room without great color coordination is bad, and it's not OK not to mind it". There's a Mitchell and Webb sketch about this, in which two home-buyers on such a show are presented a bathroom with avocado fixtures, and the host berates them over multiple takes because their initial reaction isn't as negative as it ought to be. Fiction, but there's definitely a kind of same-ness to people's reactions to any but a few acceptable colors on those shows.
leereeves 4y ago
I think people in the past spent less time looking at a screen and had other hobbies (like interior decorating) instead.
- hackernewds 4y ago
  Seems like a stretch that using screens has led to a decline in interior decorating. You could argue a whole generation including men are now devolved into desk setups, plants, terrariums, "earthy colors", hygge, woodworking, aesthetics, etc through Pinterest, Instagram, etc. The same revolution has happened for the glorification of cooks -> chefs and the proliferation of home bakers
- Macha 4y ago
  Alternatively, people in the past had fewer possesions (not out of virtuous minimialism as some people portray, but sheer economic reality), and so had more time to consider how each would fit in.

stonemetal12 4y ago

>Grey, steel, white and black will work in basically every kitchen. I don't understand that argument. My toaster only needs to work in my kitchen, not every kitchen. From a manufacture's point of view I get it. It is cheaper to produce 3 colors than 54.

rockbruno 4y ago
They're talking about a design perspective. People like the lime green toaster because it by itself looks nice, but if they placed it in _their_ kitchen, it would probably look absolutely ridiculous unless they're designers and know how to perfectly balance such a strong color in the room. In contrast, neutral colors will look good in any color palette and require zero design talent from your side.
solumunus 4y ago
We're talking about the context of this "study". If people are asked which toaster they want to take home, the vast majority of them will have a kitchen where "grey, steel, white or black" works the best, even if they prefer another color. They're not going to redesign their entire kitchen for a particular toaster.

nereye 4y ago

Would normally try to resist but, just as FYI, from https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/30/palate-palette-pallet/ https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/30/palate-palette-pallet/: palate / palette / pallet Your “palate” is the roof of your mouth, and by extension, your sense of taste. A “palette” is the flat board an artist mixes paint on (or by extension, a range of colors). A “pallet” is either a bed (now rare) or a flat platform onto which goods are loaded.

AmericanChopper 4y ago
Thanks. Good language correcting.