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I think you need to qualify "in Europe", as a European it is certainly not true of any place I ever lived "in Europe". That aside, it would be nice if we could
by baobob 4y ago
I think you need to qualify "in Europe", as a European it is certainly not true of any place I ever lived "in Europe".
That aside, it would be nice if we could survive just a single thread about a child protection feature without endless absurdist arguments and strawmen being offered.
I appreciate the reply to this comment indicating nudity is often unsolicited. That's very true. A productive thread regarding a feature like this might include discussion of how to limit its scope, or how it might be safely extended to other kinds of harmful content a child might want to avoid. A pointless thread might be one where the heart of the tech industry continues to ignore the fact many new parents ban all unsupervised Internet and new media usage for their children well into their teens due to problems like this remaining unsolved for decades now, and the industry being utterly incapable of having a sober conversation about it.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago> I think you need to qualify "in Europe", as a European it is certainly not true of any place I ever lived "in Europe". Nudist beaches or naturalists' resorts are everywhere in Europe, even where it's less obvious, like in the former communist block. EDIT: if we are talking about kids nudity, like changing them in the open, in front of everybody, that's never been an issue in my almost 50 years on this Planet as European living in Europe.
- gambiting 4y agoUK is definitely on the American side of things in this. Lived here for a long time now and there's definitely a lot of that "oh no a child might see a nipple, how awful". But yeah, in Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Spain, maybe even France - people would care a lot less. Especially in Czech Republic and Slovakia - you go to a public swimming pool, people just change in the open, children included, no one minds or cares. (obviously that's just my own travel experience, I don't doubt there are places in all of those countries where that's not true)
- bambax 4y agoThe UK made it very clear they don't want to be part of Europe. Which is fine by me.
- gambiting 4y agoThey are though, whether they want to or not. If someone says "in europe people do X" then "europe" includes UK.
- ryandvm 4y agoThe UK is culturally isolated, geographically isolated, and politically isolated. They are about as European as Mexico is North American which is to say it's technically true, but practically false.
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- bambax 4y agoWhy do children need to be "protected" from nudity? What's so special about nudity? The reason people try to control children's access to tech and social media isn't because they might see a nipple (lol) but because it's addictive and prevents them from doing anything else. If we realy want to "protect the chidren" we should start by dismantling FAANGs.
- baobob 4y agoThis is precisely what I meant by pointless: outside of 20somethings and certain locales (particularly large cities), alternate lifestyles exist where parents simply may not want this for their children. I'd suggest arguments for or against any particular culture or lifestyle, or attempting to deny they exist, exceed the scope of discussing the feature itself.
- true_religion 4y agoThey don’t need to be protected from nudity in and of itself. However if they are talking to an adult or a stranger randomly messages them, it would be nice if the device blurs pornographic imagery. If they are looking for porn themselves (e.g. are of the age to care for such things), they can download it themselves via Safari. But generally speaking there’s no need to trade this stuff on iMessage.
- Sporktacular 4y agoThey're being protected from the abuse of their nude image by online contacts.
- john_the_writer 4y agoI don't let my kids on the net unsupervised not because of things like this, but because of social media and scammers. Honestly, I'm more worried about them getting a call to fix their computer because it "has viruses" than anything else.