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>naked photos and videos show the private body parts that are usually covered by underwear or bathing suits sweet, now the iPhone (which a child shouldn't use

>naked photos and videos show the private body parts that are usually covered by underwear or bathing suits sweet, now the iPhone (which a child shouldn't use in the first place) is nannying the kid and doing "the talk" instead of the parents. how soon until your phone makes your son sit trough an entire sex-ed class on his first NSFW internet search?

dereg 4y ago
This is the least charitable perspective you could adopt. If you looked at the prompts, it's clear that this system is to help initiate a healthy conversation with your parents/trusted entities about how to deal with and understand these types of photos. 1:1 conversation couldn't be more different from NSFW internet searches. A malicious party can use coercive tactics to have the child send them compromising photos.
- HidyBush 4y ago
  I am tired of being charitable to these companies. Children shouldn't drive cars, they shouldn't do drugs and they shouldn't use smartphones. Would you be fine with a beer company making a "safe" version of beer for kids so they get hooked and once they turn 21 they switch to the real stuff and become alcoholics? Making these devices more "child friendly" is the wrong solution to the problem. Actually, it's the absolute BEST solution if you are Apple and want to calm the parents down and sell more phones and services at the same time. Unfortunately I'm not Apple and my objective regarding my kids is not to maximize profits and push complex technology to people down to the last semi-conscious toddler
  - dereg 4y ago
    There's no censorship/prohibition of content going on, unless you consider opt-ins censorship. I do not. I'm curious about how you feel about Google Image's SafeSearch being turned on by default. Is it also worthy of such ire?
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    Is there anyone alive that had their first drink at 21?
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    - jakeva 4y ago
      I did, and lots of former mormons who leave their religion and embrace the vices of the world after their two year mission.
varispeed 4y ago
They'll call it "Parenting as a Service"...
threeseed 4y ago
Not sure what reality you’re living in but almost all kids in high school have phones. This feature is targeted firmly at that demographic who generally aren’t going to listen to what their parents say on this matter. But whom will suffer the worst if their photos are spread around the school.
wonderbore 4y ago
> how soon until your phone makes your son sit trough an entire sex-ed class on his first NSFW internet search? I wish I received that the first time I looked for NSFW content (at 11). I’m totally fine with this kind of warnings for kids.
jrmann100 4y ago
Being comfortable with sexuality and nudity is distinct from sexual harassment, and I think this feature is fundamentally designed to prevent the latter. Some nude content is wanted or warranted by the user, and some of isn't. Apple isn't blocking this content, only optionally hiding it—almost identically to Reddit's NSFW feature for mature adults. The "Ways to Get Help" might overstep the bounds for some situations, but it might also prevent others from getting worse. Often, children are uncomfortable with sharing about being exposed to uncomfortable content. While that may be a fault of parenting, it doesn't make this tool any less useful.

dereg 4y ago

This is the least charitable perspective you could adopt. If you looked at the prompts, it's clear that this system is to help initiate a healthy conversation with your parents/trusted entities about how to deal with and understand these types of photos. 1:1 conversation couldn't be more different from NSFW internet searches. A malicious party can use coercive tactics to have the child send them compromising photos.

HidyBush 4y ago
I am tired of being charitable to these companies. Children shouldn't drive cars, they shouldn't do drugs and they shouldn't use smartphones. Would you be fine with a beer company making a "safe" version of beer for kids so they get hooked and once they turn 21 they switch to the real stuff and become alcoholics? Making these devices more "child friendly" is the wrong solution to the problem. Actually, it's the absolute BEST solution if you are Apple and want to calm the parents down and sell more phones and services at the same time. Unfortunately I'm not Apple and my objective regarding my kids is not to maximize profits and push complex technology to people down to the last semi-conscious toddler
- dereg 4y ago
  There's no censorship/prohibition of content going on, unless you consider opt-ins censorship. I do not. I'm curious about how you feel about Google Image's SafeSearch being turned on by default. Is it also worthy of such ire?
- lostlogin 4y ago
  Is there anyone alive that had their first drink at 21?
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - jakeva 4y ago
    I did, and lots of former mormons who leave their religion and embrace the vices of the world after their two year mission.

varispeed 4y ago

They'll call it "Parenting as a Service"...

threeseed 4y ago

Not sure what reality you’re living in but almost all kids in high school have phones. This feature is targeted firmly at that demographic who generally aren’t going to listen to what their parents say on this matter. But whom will suffer the worst if their photos are spread around the school.

wonderbore 4y ago

> how soon until your phone makes your son sit trough an entire sex-ed class on his first NSFW internet search? I wish I received that the first time I looked for NSFW content (at 11). I’m totally fine with this kind of warnings for kids.

jrmann100 4y ago

Being comfortable with sexuality and nudity is distinct from sexual harassment, and I think this feature is fundamentally designed to prevent the latter. Some nude content is wanted or warranted by the user, and some of isn't. Apple isn't blocking this content, only optionally hiding it—almost identically to Reddit's NSFW feature for mature adults. The "Ways to Get Help" might overstep the bounds for some situations, but it might also prevent others from getting worse. Often, children are uncomfortable with sharing about being exposed to uncomfortable content. While that may be a fault of parenting, it doesn't make this tool any less useful.