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If true, selective enforcement is bad. But some minority demographics commit disproportionate (edit: violent) crime per capita so you expect some proportional

If true, selective enforcement is bad. But some minority demographics commit disproportionate (edit: violent) crime per capita so you expect some proportional scaling (more crime = more need for crime detection) if they happen to live in cities/areas where that's the case. (Usually big cities)

gpm 4y ago
> Usually big cities I'm surprised to see this is somewhat true in the US. In Canada rural crime rates are higher than urban ones, but that trend doesn't seem to hold for the US (per sources below) Of course extrapolating from "average crime rate" to "location of hotspots" might be suspect in both cases... Stats Canada: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2019001/article/00009-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2019001/article... Bloomberg article with some nice graphs, and really good links to sources (at the end of it) - the text focuses on NYC but the second line chart in particular (based off of linked CDC data) does a good job of answering this question: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new...
- droopyEyelids 4y ago
  If you'll look past the unempathetic title of this website, and the nasty tone of the author, you'll see some of how violent crime clusters in Chicago (data visualization) https://heyjackass.com https://heyjackass.com
gorbachev 4y ago
That depends entirely on what you consider as crime worth pursuing. For example, it's well documented wage theft is a much bigger crime in terms of monetary value than all forms of robberies combined. But those criminals don't get nearly the same level of enforcement as robbers do.
- llanowarelves 4y ago
  May be true, but we're talking about (alleged) crimes that ShotSpotter can pick up: gets labelled as "violent crimes". Other Spotters for things such as wage theft, fraud, etc would be great. You could (and I would) argue some whole industries are heavily criminal (fraud) and bait people into moral hazard.

gpm 4y ago

> Usually big cities I'm surprised to see this is somewhat true in the US. In Canada rural crime rates are higher than urban ones, but that trend doesn't seem to hold for the US (per sources below) Of course extrapolating from "average crime rate" to "location of hotspots" might be suspect in both cases... Stats Canada: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2019001/article/00009-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2019001/article... Bloomberg article with some nice graphs, and really good links to sources (at the end of it) - the text focuses on NYC but the second line chart in particular (based off of linked CDC data) does a good job of answering this question: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new...

droopyEyelids 4y ago
If you'll look past the unempathetic title of this website, and the nasty tone of the author, you'll see some of how violent crime clusters in Chicago (data visualization) https://heyjackass.com https://heyjackass.com

gorbachev 4y ago

That depends entirely on what you consider as crime worth pursuing. For example, it's well documented wage theft is a much bigger crime in terms of monetary value than all forms of robberies combined. But those criminals don't get nearly the same level of enforcement as robbers do.

llanowarelves 4y ago
May be true, but we're talking about (alleged) crimes that ShotSpotter can pick up: gets labelled as "violent crimes". Other Spotters for things such as wage theft, fraud, etc would be great. You could (and I would) argue some whole industries are heavily criminal (fraud) and bait people into moral hazard.