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I absolutely loved KDE 3 back then. Konqueror was awesome. File Manager and Web Browser in one! For some ideological reasons they decided to introduce Dolphin

I absolutely loved KDE 3 back then. Konqueror was awesome. File Manager and Web Browser in one! For some ideological reasons they decided to introduce Dolphin as a file manager in KDE 4 which had much less features. I ended up switching to Xfce though these days I also use Cinnamon (also Gnome 2 inspired) because it is the Linux Mint default choice. Though I hate that they have recently tried to make Cinnamon look more "fresh" and keep changing it so I probably will end up going back to Xfce if it still the same.

toyg 4y ago
From what I (vaguely) remember, the reasons behind moves like Dolphin were that they felt the integrated Konqueror was a mistake. It certainly made for hard maintenance, the integration system often broke after small changes; and I can imagine security was an issue. Microsoft had made a similar choice in Windows 98/2000/XP, and went through a similar backtracking after XPsp2. Also, they were trying to move the system to Qt4, which was a big task. Breaking things up probably seemed logical. Add a bit of classic FOSS bugfix-is-boring-let's-rewrite, and voilà...
- Sharlin 4y ago
  Of course, in MS’s case the backtracking happened primarily because after years of court battle and endless millions of dollars they were told they’re very much not allowed to deeply integrate the browser to the OS. There never was any technical or usability merit in marrying the two Explorers, it was 100% Microsoft’s attempt to own the web.
danuker 4y ago
I went through almost the same story. At some point I was disappointed by KRunner of KDE 4 disappearing with my partially written formulas, then found Qalculate. Then I saw someone at work using i3, and I was amazed and hooked. I changed some keybindings to be more familiar (like alt+f4 close and alt+f2 run). But recently I have been having some dual monitor troubles with it. Maybe I'll try Trinity for a few weeks. And maybe some tiling WM other than i3.
- qu4z-2 4y ago
  I should really spend a weekend seeing whether I can get the Trinity desktop environment running with i3 as a window manager. I'm currently using a Gnome-flashback/i3 hybrid that's surprisingly nice.

toyg 4y ago

From what I (vaguely) remember, the reasons behind moves like Dolphin were that they felt the integrated Konqueror was a mistake. It certainly made for hard maintenance, the integration system often broke after small changes; and I can imagine security was an issue. Microsoft had made a similar choice in Windows 98/2000/XP, and went through a similar backtracking after XPsp2. Also, they were trying to move the system to Qt4, which was a big task. Breaking things up probably seemed logical. Add a bit of classic FOSS bugfix-is-boring-let's-rewrite, and voilà...

Sharlin 4y ago
Of course, in MS’s case the backtracking happened primarily because after years of court battle and endless millions of dollars they were told they’re very much not allowed to deeply integrate the browser to the OS. There never was any technical or usability merit in marrying the two Explorers, it was 100% Microsoft’s attempt to own the web.

danuker 4y ago

I went through almost the same story. At some point I was disappointed by KRunner of KDE 4 disappearing with my partially written formulas, then found Qalculate. Then I saw someone at work using i3, and I was amazed and hooked. I changed some keybindings to be more familiar (like alt+f4 close and alt+f2 run). But recently I have been having some dual monitor troubles with it. Maybe I'll try Trinity for a few weeks. And maybe some tiling WM other than i3.

qu4z-2 4y ago
I should really spend a weekend seeing whether I can get the Trinity desktop environment running with i3 as a window manager. I'm currently using a Gnome-flashback/i3 hybrid that's surprisingly nice.