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Re: #2, they also decided to merge Facebook with Oculus login, and I still refuse to buy an Oculus for that reason alone. I'm tired of my data being cross analy

Re: #2, they also decided to merge Facebook with Oculus login, and I still refuse to buy an Oculus for that reason alone. I'm tired of my data being cross analyzed and seeing creepy ads follow me around the internet. Last thing I want to do is plug into some Facebook metaverse where even my eyeball movements are analyzed and processed. As a kid I thought I would love VR. And even as solid as the modern experiences have gotten, spending more than 15 minutes in a headset is nauseating, and there's so much ceremony to get set up and you pretty much are expected to stand while playing. I'd rather veg out on the couch with a PS4 controller, I guess?

Karrot_Kream 4y ago
> As a kid I thought I would love VR. And even as solid as the modern experiences have gotten, spending more than 15 minutes in a headset is nauseating, and there's so much ceremony to get set up and you pretty much are expected to stand while playing. I'd rather veg out on the couch with a PS4 controller, I guess? Yeah VR tech needs to become much more seamless before it impacts the market. But we can see that as headsets get better, a larger market segment is willing to take part. Every upgrade in experience and ergonomics opens up another tier of user.
dnissley 4y ago
re: The merging of facebook with oculus login -- next month you'll be able to create a standalone "meta" account, which are basically the equivalent of the old oculus accounts. You don't have to link them with a facebook account or any other existing account (but you will have the option). https://store.facebook.com/help/accounts/?intern_source=blog&intern_content=meta-accounts https://store.facebook.com/help/accounts/?intern_source=blog... Disclaimer: I work on a team that's helping out with this effort
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- erichocean 4y ago
  No one believes a standalone "meta" account won't be linked (behind their back) by Meta to their Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp accounts. No company or CEO deserves less trust than Meta and Zuckerberg.
  - dnissley 4y ago
    Personally I can't blame you at all for such a belief given how poor of a steward of user data the company has been in the past. All I can say is that it won't happen on my watch, and that the company gives product teams the tools and training to protect against such abuse before it happens, and incentivizes the raising of any privacy issues for many reasons including the FTC consent order that Zuckerberg has submitted to.
- guiambros 4y ago
  Thanks for your work to disentangle the two systems. I don't envy the work involved, but certainly appreciate what you're doing. I'm one of the users frustrated when accounts were forcibly merged, but thankful Meta listened to user feedback and will revert it moving forward. No particular reason, but like many others, I prefer to have a separate identity for each service, instead of commingling all of them together.
- CursedUrn 4y ago
  No, a Meta account is the equivalent of a Facebook account, not the equivalent of an Oculus account. Oculus was a VR company, not an advertising/data tracking company and their account system reflected that.
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Karrot_Kream 4y ago

> As a kid I thought I would love VR. And even as solid as the modern experiences have gotten, spending more than 15 minutes in a headset is nauseating, and there's so much ceremony to get set up and you pretty much are expected to stand while playing. I'd rather veg out on the couch with a PS4 controller, I guess? Yeah VR tech needs to become much more seamless before it impacts the market. But we can see that as headsets get better, a larger market segment is willing to take part. Every upgrade in experience and ergonomics opens up another tier of user.

dnissley 4y ago

re: The merging of facebook with oculus login -- next month you'll be able to create a standalone "meta" account, which are basically the equivalent of the old oculus accounts. You don't have to link them with a facebook account or any other existing account (but you will have the option). https://store.facebook.com/help/accounts/?intern_source=blog&intern_content=meta-accounts https://store.facebook.com/help/accounts/?intern_source=blog... Disclaimer: I work on a team that's helping out with this effort

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erichocean 4y ago
No one believes a standalone "meta" account won't be linked (behind their back) by Meta to their Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp accounts. No company or CEO deserves less trust than Meta and Zuckerberg.
- dnissley 4y ago
  Personally I can't blame you at all for such a belief given how poor of a steward of user data the company has been in the past. All I can say is that it won't happen on my watch, and that the company gives product teams the tools and training to protect against such abuse before it happens, and incentivizes the raising of any privacy issues for many reasons including the FTC consent order that Zuckerberg has submitted to.
guiambros 4y ago
Thanks for your work to disentangle the two systems. I don't envy the work involved, but certainly appreciate what you're doing. I'm one of the users frustrated when accounts were forcibly merged, but thankful Meta listened to user feedback and will revert it moving forward. No particular reason, but like many others, I prefer to have a separate identity for each service, instead of commingling all of them together.
CursedUrn 4y ago
No, a Meta account is the equivalent of a Facebook account, not the equivalent of an Oculus account. Oculus was a VR company, not an advertising/data tracking company and their account system reflected that.

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