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You have a point, but the way Europeans see the US is very different from how they see China. The US has done some morally questionable things in recent memory

You have a point, but the way Europeans see the US is very different from how they see China. The US has done some morally questionable things in recent memory (War on terror, Snowden/Assange, Trump, etc) but on the whole US is seen as an ally, not an adversary.

lnxg33k1 4y ago
Only for politicians, it’s been 20 years that I haven’t met an European who consider the us an ally, and I’ve lived in Uk Germany Netherlands and Italy, but so far we’ve voted US allying politicians because of the threat of nationalist parties, but at least in Italy is about to change due to the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to us
- ryanwaggoner 4y ago
  That’s probably more about who you spend time with, as a very strong majority of Europeans surveyed view the US as an ally and have an overall positive view: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/international-public-opinion-of-the-u-s-remains-positive/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/international-...
  - lnxg33k1 4y ago
    I’ve seen citizen burning cities when there were Americans involved, just think about the g7 and g8 and ttip protests, I really don’t believe polls, but we’ll see upcoming elections I guess
- ramblerman 4y ago
  > I haven’t met an European who consider the US an ally, What hyperbole. There are plenty, myself included. Don't confuse criticism of the US with us not being an ally. > the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to US ??? The finger is clearly pointed at Putin and Germany's naivity over the past 10 years for this mess we are in. I'd be curious to read a European publication that even suggests this is due to the US (if you have a link).
  - jvanderbot 4y ago
    currently in the US, Fox is blaming Biden. That might be enough for some, esp any Russian apologists.
    - lnxg33k1 4y ago
      For the whole of Trump administration, he was really good at making peace when things where going south, he never said that he would protect for example Taiwan directly in case of attack of China. I miss Trump so much, like he was a issue for US , but the rest of the world just could have a laugh and live in peace It was Obama that started poking Putin saying that he was at the end of a medium power, and it is Biden that is giving all the weapons asked to Ukraine without even asking for a way to de-escalate and find a compromise, it is Biden that is letting Ukrainian lose territory and life just for weakening Russia for US interests
      - jvanderbot 4y ago
        Threatening withdrawal from NATO, withholding Ukrainian defense aid, and not promising to defend Taiwan are not positive features for many in the USA. As a personal example, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was obvious back in 2014 (read accidental superpower). As is the eventual annexation of Taiwan. Both are not the kinds of actions I like to see in the world and support efforts to reduce the occurance of those actions. European nations are aiding Ukraine as well, this not a unilateral US action. I also don't support prolonged invasion of Afghanistan by the US, just in case you're wondering.
        lnxg33k1 4y ago
        >> Threatening withdrawal from NATO, withholding Ukrainian defense aid, and not >> promising to defend Taiwan are not positive features for many in the USA. Correct, in the USA, It it NONE of the world problem, like in EU we have done business with Russia for decades without issues, we got gas, companies got energy and everyone was happy, except US, of course Europeans are also supporting it (politicians) but they are doing it without going through people, they didn't campaign for it, and if everything goes well, they will see the effect of their loyalty to US interest at next elections I just wanted to say that USA interest are likely to match the interest of EU, but it is not always, EU interests were more likely to keep making business with Russia in peace

lnxg33k1 4y ago

Only for politicians, it’s been 20 years that I haven’t met an European who consider the us an ally, and I’ve lived in Uk Germany Netherlands and Italy, but so far we’ve voted US allying politicians because of the threat of nationalist parties, but at least in Italy is about to change due to the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to us

ryanwaggoner 4y ago
That’s probably more about who you spend time with, as a very strong majority of Europeans surveyed view the US as an ally and have an overall positive view: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/international-public-opinion-of-the-u-s-remains-positive/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/international-...
- lnxg33k1 4y ago
  I’ve seen citizen burning cities when there were Americans involved, just think about the g7 and g8 and ttip protests, I really don’t believe polls, but we’ll see upcoming elections I guess
ramblerman 4y ago
> I haven’t met an European who consider the US an ally, What hyperbole. There are plenty, myself included. Don't confuse criticism of the US with us not being an ally. > the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to US ??? The finger is clearly pointed at Putin and Germany's naivity over the past 10 years for this mess we are in. I'd be curious to read a European publication that even suggests this is due to the US (if you have a link).
- jvanderbot 4y ago
  currently in the US, Fox is blaming Biden. That might be enough for some, esp any Russian apologists.
  - lnxg33k1 4y ago
    For the whole of Trump administration, he was really good at making peace when things where going south, he never said that he would protect for example Taiwan directly in case of attack of China. I miss Trump so much, like he was a issue for US , but the rest of the world just could have a laugh and live in peace It was Obama that started poking Putin saying that he was at the end of a medium power, and it is Biden that is giving all the weapons asked to Ukraine without even asking for a way to de-escalate and find a compromise, it is Biden that is letting Ukrainian lose territory and life just for weakening Russia for US interests
    - jvanderbot 4y ago
      Threatening withdrawal from NATO, withholding Ukrainian defense aid, and not promising to defend Taiwan are not positive features for many in the USA. As a personal example, the Russian invasion of Ukraine was obvious back in 2014 (read accidental superpower). As is the eventual annexation of Taiwan. Both are not the kinds of actions I like to see in the world and support efforts to reduce the occurance of those actions. European nations are aiding Ukraine as well, this not a unilateral US action. I also don't support prolonged invasion of Afghanistan by the US, just in case you're wondering.
      - lnxg33k1 4y ago
        >> Threatening withdrawal from NATO, withholding Ukrainian defense aid, and not >> promising to defend Taiwan are not positive features for many in the USA. Correct, in the USA, It it NONE of the world problem, like in EU we have done business with Russia for decades without issues, we got gas, companies got energy and everyone was happy, except US, of course Europeans are also supporting it (politicians) but they are doing it without going through people, they didn't campaign for it, and if everything goes well, they will see the effect of their loyalty to US interest at next elections I just wanted to say that USA interest are likely to match the interest of EU, but it is not always, EU interests were more likely to keep making business with Russia in peace