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> If someone is truly insulted by language and not intent they need to grow up. Spoken like someone who's never had to hear a slur about them in a joke. "But I

> If someone is truly insulted by language and not intent they need to grow up. Spoken like someone who's never had to hear a slur about them in a joke. "But I was just joking!" - oh, then it's okay? Maybe the person using slurs should grow up? In the article, the author specifically discusses a case when a new hire used a pejorative. Intent doesn't matter. What you say and do matters. "Well I just wanted to get home safe and to bed" isn't a good defense when you get into an accident while drunk driving.

kleer001 4y ago
> Spoken like someone who's never had to hear a slur about them in a joke. "Personal argumentation on the internet is the bastion of the shallow." ~ Me I cannot prove over this medium if I had experienced that or not. You cannot verify either way. Your use of this argument saddens me. You could have just left it out and strengthened your apparent position. > Intent doesn't matter. Mens Rea doesn't matter? There's more than a few hundred years and dozens of generations of judges and lawyers from around the world that would like to have a word with you.
- trs8080 4y ago
  > "Personal argumentation on the internet is the bastion of the shallow." ~ Me If you believed what you're saying above, then why respond? Also, you don't need to quote yourself; you can just write the sentence. > I cannot prove over this medium if I had experienced that or not. You cannot verify either way. Your use of this argument saddens me. You could have just left it out and strengthened your apparent position. It was rhetorical. Someone who's actually experienced this doesn't take the attitude you're taking. > Mens Rea doesn't matter? There's more than a few hundred years and dozens of generations of judges and lawyers from around the world that would like to have a word with you. I'm talking about racist jokes and being a decent human being, not legal precedent.

kleer001 4y ago

> Spoken like someone who's never had to hear a slur about them in a joke. "Personal argumentation on the internet is the bastion of the shallow." ~ Me I cannot prove over this medium if I had experienced that or not. You cannot verify either way. Your use of this argument saddens me. You could have just left it out and strengthened your apparent position. > Intent doesn't matter. Mens Rea doesn't matter? There's more than a few hundred years and dozens of generations of judges and lawyers from around the world that would like to have a word with you.

trs8080 4y ago
> "Personal argumentation on the internet is the bastion of the shallow." ~ Me If you believed what you're saying above, then why respond? Also, you don't need to quote yourself; you can just write the sentence. > I cannot prove over this medium if I had experienced that or not. You cannot verify either way. Your use of this argument saddens me. You could have just left it out and strengthened your apparent position. It was rhetorical. Someone who's actually experienced this doesn't take the attitude you're taking. > Mens Rea doesn't matter? There's more than a few hundred years and dozens of generations of judges and lawyers from around the world that would like to have a word with you. I'm talking about racist jokes and being a decent human being, not legal precedent.