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You really think Google have a failure to innovate? Obviously search was their first, core innovation, but over the years they’ve delivered so many other succes

by yashap 4y ago

You really think Google have a failure to innovate? Obviously search was their first, core innovation, but over the years they’ve delivered so many other successful products (many acquired, true, but even those they’ve evolved really well). Off the top of my head: - Maps - AdWords - Gmail - YouTube - Analytics - Translate - Calendar - Sheets - Docs - Drive - Meet - Slides - Drawings - Forms - Trends - Alerts I’m sure I’m missing a bunch too. IMO they’ve pushed the envelope in a massive number of spaces, and continue to do so. That’s an incredible number of insanely successful software products for a 23 year old company. Edit: I was thinking web/mobile apps there, missing obvious big ones like Android, Chrome, self-driving cars, a bajillion Google Cloud products, Chromebooks, Go, Dart/Flutter, AMP, Bazel, Protobuf, gRPC, Quik/HTTP2/3-related innovations, etc.

i386 4y ago
Ads is the only thing on that list that brings in revenue.
- sfe22 4y ago
  Drive (and docs/gmail) is also profitable. So is maps and youtube.
- tech234a 4y ago
  Maps and Translate have paid APIs available.
liveoneggs 4y ago
Did you intentionally make a list of google acquisitions as a joke?
- yashap 4y ago
  Many of these started as acquisitions, but they massively transformed them. For example, they acquired some products in the mapping space, but none of them remotely resembled what Google Maps have become. Taking some starting point, hugely evolving it/transforming it, and growing it into a dominant market leading product, I personally consider that innovation.
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stefanfisk 4y ago
Aren’t all of those products over a decade old by now?
johannes1234321 4y ago
How old is the youngest of those? Any major new product younger than 10 years? - Sure they do incremental work an all of those, but where is the new?
kolbe 4y ago
I think he's talking about today, not 10+ years ago.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Aren't they also mostly just web2.0 versions of Microsoft Office products? Like Docs and Sheets are just Word and Excel right? I feel like I'm missing something. Certainly putting them in browser plus some cloud storage is innovative, but doesn't it seem kind of obvious?
runevault 4y ago
Youtube was purchased, so that one isn't anything innovated in house.
katbyte 4y ago
That list would be a lot more informative and accurate id you include the launch date of each
scottyah 4y ago
I agree with you on how much innovation occurred at google, but I think the timeline of when these innovations occurred vs when leetcode interviews really took hold is what the commenters are addressing. In the old days they had crazy hiring processes where riding a unicycle helped your case. This ushered in a group of very brilliant creatives that innovated. Now, most hires are required to memorize data structures and algorithms- things that a lot of the smart creative people loathe to do, and as a result the pace of innovation has slowed to almost a halt. My personal opinion is that there were too many chefs in the kitchen and google is now trying to optimize the “creative leader” to “can pump out rote code” ratio.
aquova 4y ago
For context though: - Maps - 2005 - AdWords - 2000 - Gmail - 2004 - YouTube - 2005, but not founded by Google - Analytics - 2005 - Translate - 2006 (but with neural machine engine in 2016) - Calendar - 2006 - Sheets - 2006, but not founded by Google - Docs - 2006, but not founded by Google - Drive - 2012 - Slides - 2007, but based on acquisition - Drawings - 2010 - Forms - Prior to 2014, couldn't find exact date - Trends - 2006 - Alerts - 2003
- pyb 4y ago
  Maps was also an acquisition.
- tech234a 4y ago
  Analytics was based on the acquisition of Urchin; the "utm" that is still seen in URL parameters today stands for "Urchin Tracking Module" [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Analytics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Analytics
_jal 4y ago
Edited to add acquisitions, where appropriate: - Maps (Keyhole, Where2, Endoxion) - AdWords (Doubleclick) - Gmail (reMail) - YouTube (Youtube) - Analytics (Urchin) - Translate (Phonetic Arts) - Calendar (Timeful) - Docs (Upstartle)
- lokar 4y ago
  AdWords was not based on double click
- dagw 4y ago
  Google Maps, the web application, was not an acquisition. Google bought two companies that made desktop mapping tools (One of them lived on as Google Earth Pro and was a commercial product they kept selling for years) and used that as a basis for developing the web based Google Maps. Also based on everything I can find, Gmail started as an in house project. reMail was acquired 5+ years after Gmail launched.
  - _jal 4y ago
    Agreed, this gets super fuzzy at some point, most quibbles with the list will probably have some merit.
- sakopov 4y ago
  I thought Gmail was someone's "20% time" personal project?
chinchilla2020 4y ago
acquisition is not innovation. However, they did make some very shrewd business moves there. Google makes all their money off search advertising. They always have, and still do. They are a one trick pony with one REALLY good trick.

by yashap 4y ago

i386 4y ago

Ads is the only thing on that list that brings in revenue.

sfe22 4y ago
Drive (and docs/gmail) is also profitable. So is maps and youtube.
tech234a 4y ago
Maps and Translate have paid APIs available.

liveoneggs 4y ago

Did you intentionally make a list of google acquisitions as a joke?

yashap 4y ago
Many of these started as acquisitions, but they massively transformed them. For example, they acquired some products in the mapping space, but none of them remotely resembled what Google Maps have become. Taking some starting point, hugely evolving it/transforming it, and growing it into a dominant market leading product, I personally consider that innovation.

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stefanfisk 4y ago

Aren’t all of those products over a decade old by now?

johannes1234321 4y ago

How old is the youngest of those? Any major new product younger than 10 years? - Sure they do incremental work an all of those, but where is the new?

kolbe 4y ago

I think he's talking about today, not 10+ years ago.

hotpotamus 4y ago
Aren't they also mostly just web2.0 versions of Microsoft Office products? Like Docs and Sheets are just Word and Excel right? I feel like I'm missing something. Certainly putting them in browser plus some cloud storage is innovative, but doesn't it seem kind of obvious?

runevault 4y ago

Youtube was purchased, so that one isn't anything innovated in house.

katbyte 4y ago

That list would be a lot more informative and accurate id you include the launch date of each

scottyah 4y ago

I agree with you on how much innovation occurred at google, but I think the timeline of when these innovations occurred vs when leetcode interviews really took hold is what the commenters are addressing. In the old days they had crazy hiring processes where riding a unicycle helped your case. This ushered in a group of very brilliant creatives that innovated. Now, most hires are required to memorize data structures and algorithms- things that a lot of the smart creative people loathe to do, and as a result the pace of innovation has slowed to almost a halt. My personal opinion is that there were too many chefs in the kitchen and google is now trying to optimize the “creative leader” to “can pump out rote code” ratio.

aquova 4y ago

For context though: - Maps - 2005 - AdWords - 2000 - Gmail - 2004 - YouTube - 2005, but not founded by Google - Analytics - 2005 - Translate - 2006 (but with neural machine engine in 2016) - Calendar - 2006 - Sheets - 2006, but not founded by Google - Docs - 2006, but not founded by Google - Drive - 2012 - Slides - 2007, but based on acquisition - Drawings - 2010 - Forms - Prior to 2014, couldn't find exact date - Trends - 2006 - Alerts - 2003

pyb 4y ago
Maps was also an acquisition.
tech234a 4y ago
Analytics was based on the acquisition of Urchin; the "utm" that is still seen in URL parameters today stands for "Urchin Tracking Module" [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Analytics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Analytics

_jal 4y ago

Edited to add acquisitions, where appropriate: - Maps (Keyhole, Where2, Endoxion) - AdWords (Doubleclick) - Gmail (reMail) - YouTube (Youtube) - Analytics (Urchin) - Translate (Phonetic Arts) - Calendar (Timeful) - Docs (Upstartle)

lokar 4y ago
AdWords was not based on double click
dagw 4y ago
Google Maps, the web application, was not an acquisition. Google bought two companies that made desktop mapping tools (One of them lived on as Google Earth Pro and was a commercial product they kept selling for years) and used that as a basis for developing the web based Google Maps. Also based on everything I can find, Gmail started as an in house project. reMail was acquired 5+ years after Gmail launched.
- _jal 4y ago
  Agreed, this gets super fuzzy at some point, most quibbles with the list will probably have some merit.
sakopov 4y ago
I thought Gmail was someone's "20% time" personal project?

chinchilla2020 4y ago

acquisition is not innovation. However, they did make some very shrewd business moves there. Google makes all their money off search advertising. They always have, and still do. They are a one trick pony with one REALLY good trick.