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No. Easiest by far is to relax immigration restrictions.
by pm90 4y ago
No. Easiest by far is to relax immigration restrictions.
- throwaway5959 4y agoDo both.
- throw_m239339 4y ago> No. Easiest by far is to relax immigration restrictions. Easiest way to make citizens of a country vote for anti-immigration parties is to significantly increase immigration.
- pm90 4y agoRegrettably, This is what does tend to happen. But its also a failure of society because immigrants are easy targets for scoring political points, despite it being repeatedly shown how beneficial immigration has been to Western econonomies.
- boppo1 4y agoCan you support that last claim? Might have been good for the S&P, but I'm not so certain the average joe off the street has seen said benefits. I could swear I recently saw a stat that locally born men in the US have only shared in like 3% of new job growth for the last decade or something like that.
- pm90 4y agoIncome inequality is a separate (albeit related) problem from economic growth. Immigration generates more value, the fact that most of this value is captured by elites needs to be fixed with appropriate actions (higher taxation on the extremely rich etc).
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago'but I'm not so certain the average joe off the street has seen said benefits' Since 1975 productivity has grown >200%, but wages didn't. So average Joe has not seen benefits of anything really.
- MrMan 4y agolets say an innocent baby enters the world - this immigrant is not seen as much of a threat. you dont say "babys are taking things away from real Americans". just substitute "person" for "baby" and the benefits to the economy are not hard to posit. adding humans to the economy is good. the pie gets larger. more tax revenue. etc etc etc
- throw_m239339 4y ago> how beneficial immigration has been to Western econonomies. Western way of life is unsustainable and no amount of immigration will change that. To govern is to predict and the west needs to prepare itself for a post industrial, post energy hungry era. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrowth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrowth
- ClumsyPilot 4y agoThis is broad to the point of being unhelpfull - an urban resident vs suburban resident, or US vs Japanese lifestyles are quite different.
- landemva 4y agoThat is legal immigration of persons who can pass a background check, are healthy without disease, and who can work to support themselves.
- vuln 4y agoThe US has shattered record numbers of migrants crossing the southern boarder every month for over a year. It has had zero deflationary effects if anything it causes the supply to shrink even further as demand skyrockets. Migrants still need to be housed, feed, clothed and transported. There is no easy way out.
- pm90 4y agoFirst, the question is about labor supply. Second, people crossing the southern border will never be large enough to affect the US labor market. Only increasing legal immigration can have meaningful effect on the labor supply.
- vuln 4y agoMillions of jobless migrants crossing the southern border has no affect on labor supply? I also do not understand how "only legal immigration" can have an effect. Immigration is Immigration doesnt really matter the legality of it.
- pm90 4y agoIllegal immigrants can’t participate in vast sections of the economy precisely because of how well immigration checks work. They can only work for the informal sector/low level jobs.
- MrMan 4y agowell we need millions of new people, and should be paying people to come here. there should be no such thing as "illegal" immigration.