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> ...well, yes, of course they do. But they would also strongly deny the story if they thought it was untrue. Then why would block any investigation from outsi
by mullen 4y ago
> ...well, yes, of course they do. But they would also strongly deny the story if they thought it was untrue.
Then why would block any investigation from outside the Chinese government? If anything, if the Lab Leak theory is provable false, they should be inviting outsiders to investigate and waste their political capital/time/energy. If your advisories want to spin their wheels on something that is not true, then let them.
> So if they don't react negatively and deny something, then the story is... false? That doesn't make any sense.
When it comes to the Chinese government and information, surprisingly as it sounds, yes. If the Lab Leak story was not true, the Chinese government would not even react to it. They might even entertain it as part of their information ops strategy since the Lab Leak theory is a plausible theory.
If you think about it, how does the Wet Market theory make China look better than the Lab Leak theory? It really doesn't. If serious pandemics are coming out of Wet Markets, then why does China still allow Wet Markets to exist? At least with lab safety, labs can be improved and managed better while Wet Markets are just ticking pandemic timebombs.
- chimprich 4y ago> Then why would block any investigation from outside the Chinese government? I can easily believe that the Chinese government, not exactly known for its openness, would be keen to block investigations into their bio research labs, regardless of what happened in Wuhan. The potential upsides are few - would any doubters be silenced if the investigation found nothing? I can also believe that even if they have no reason to believe that the lab leak theory is true and their internal investigations have turned up nothing, that they're not entirely convinced there is zero chance there wasn't a lab leak. Even if they think there's only a 1% chance there was a lab leak, then the idea of an outside investigation is clearly dangerous to them. Blocking an investigation is safer.
- trasz 4y ago>Then why would block any investigation from outside the Chinese government? Now imagine it's US, not China. Would US let anyone from outside to investigate its labs?
- 99_00 4y agoThat's a very interesting question. Let's assume the US is the epicenter of a global pandemic that killed 6 million people and $12 trillion in economic damage (and counting). And the US is refusing to cooperate with an investigation into its origins. What is an appropriate response from China, Russia, and the international community? Assume the US's military isn't the most powerful and technologically advanced in the world. Instead China's is the most powerful and advanced.
- trasz 4y agoYou don't need to assume - US is always handling things this way, to the extreme; Hague Invasion Act for example.
- 99_00 4y agoThe question is what would China do if it had America's dominant position and there was and a global pandemic killing 6 million and causing 12 trillion in damage originated blocks away from an American virus lab and animal market.
- trasz 4y agoNothing, given that it's way less aggressive than US, and I believe for a deep cultural reasons. Which is also what have been done literally every single time it happened before, I believe? The whole idea of punishing a country for a pandemic sounds deranged even for a right wing propaganda.
- 99_00 4y agoPunishing a country for a pandemic is deranged. Ensuring the cause of the pandemic is understood and steps have been taken to greatly reduce the likely hood of it happening again is the opposite of deranged. Failing to do so is in fact deranged.
- snapcaster 4y agoI'm not sure I agree with this. Do other world powers allow their rivals to investigate their bio research facilities? I don't think I've ever heard of the US inviting other world powers to examine anything sensitive like a bio research facility
- mike00632 4y agoYou're saying that if there is more evidence that it didn't come from a lab then you would be convinced at let it go? I simply don't believe that.