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> If the choice was to be invited to participate in the conversation or not, wouldn’t you tone down your public statements in order to have a hope of influe
by nonrandomstring 4y ago
> If the choice was to be invited to participate in the conversation
or not, wouldn’t you tone down your public statements in order to
have a hope of influencing policy?
An interesting bind is called "The Critics' Dilemma", best understood
through a (Chinese) story.
One day some farmers see an invading army coming over the hill. They
rush into the city to tell the emperor. "Emperor, a huge army is
approaching, we're surely doomed!" Not wanting to have the whole city
panic the emperor has the men executed to silence them. Invaders enter
the city and slaughter all the imperial soldiers.
Many years later two farmers are watching the horizon when they see an
army gathering. "Quickly, let's warn the citizens" says
one. "No. Remember the story of what happened to our grandfathers."
says the other. So they return to the city and tell the emperor, "We
saw a few bandits gathered by the woods". The emperors soldiers go to
confront them and are all killed, The city is raided again.
The dilemma is "Tell them too much and they will deny you out of fear.
Tell them too little and they will be unprepared."
This applies, along with the Cassandra effect, right to the heart of
all intelligent critique. People are happy to die from ignorance so
long as you don't upset them with cognitive dissonance. Later, when
they are in imminent peril, they'll blame you for not speaking up
sooner.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoThe story doesn't really make sense, wouldn't the more distant outposts easily confirm if a huge army is amassing nearby?
- Mtinie 4y agoNot if the distant outposts have already succumbed to the advancing army…and all of those who came in from the field to warn the Emperor have previously been silenced.
- DoughnutHole 4y agoIt's a short parable, of course it doesn't stand up to pedantic nitpicking. The Boy Who Cried Wolf isn't a tightly tuned narrative either - why wouldn't they just put a more reliable shepherd boy out with the sheep after the first couple of lies? But that's hardly the point of a parable/fable.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoI'd hardly call the fundamentals of organization pedantic nitpicking. It's not much of a country if they can't figure out whether or not a huge enemy army is on their territory. I'd say the only way this situation could ever be remotely possible was is if the country was in the final stages of collapse.
- jamiek88 4y agoIt’s a fable or parable. Frogs and scorpions can’t have chats either but the point remains sound.