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Rust adoption very much seems to be ramping up within the really big companies. Google talking about it both for Android and Chrome, FB with a ton of things, Ap

Rust adoption very much seems to be ramping up within the really big companies. Google talking about it both for Android and Chrome, FB with a ton of things, Apple had uses for it I think but I'm blanking on what, Amazon is using it for at least some new AWS infrastucture...

darzu 4y ago
Microsoft has been using it internally as well.
- Mountain_Skies 4y ago
  I look forward to seeing Rust# (or R# for maximum confusion).
- runevault 4y ago
  Yeah. They are both writing code in Rust and also dabbling in creating a language of their own to see how that goes, not necessarily with the intent of releasing it, but at least exploring the space from first principles instead of being incumbered by Rust's decisions. I think the name started with V but I cannot find it right now with quick Googling.
  - rascul 4y ago
    I believe you're thinking of Project Verona. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-verona/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-ver...
    - runevault 4y ago
      This is it, thank you for digging it up!
    - darzu 4y ago
      I wouldn't put much stock in MSR languages until they get usage in other orgs. There's at least a dozen research languages in flight at a given point in time. They used to have this great site were you could interact with them all: https://web.archive.org/web/20180130101736/https://www.rise4fun.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180130101736/https://www.rise4... Source: I'm a former member of RiSE
      - runevault 4y ago
        Verona is less interesting in the language that I expect to make it into the world sense and more they may learn things while exploring safety that can be applied by someone else. Rust does a lot of good with exploring the safety space, but I hope we don't simply let that be the end of any exploration of building safety into the language at a deep level.
      - pjmlp 4y ago
        To be fair, many modern C# features have started their life in MSR languages and eventually found their way to C#. It is also where F# started, although they seem not yet to know where to push it, or if it was a good idea to actually box it in VS 2010.
pjmlp 4y ago
Note that on Android it is only endorsed for system code by Google itself and OEMs, officially there are no plans to support it on the NDK, or Android Studio.
- runevault 4y ago
  Yeah sorry I should have been more specific that I meant used in the operating system. That was my bad.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Nothing prevents Google to eventually change their mind in regards to its support on userspace, however given how the NDK has been managed all these years (as a kind of side project at least from the outside), I pretty much doubt it.
    - runevault 4y ago
      Right the future could be anything, so we might as well just talk about the present.
pornel 4y ago
It's commonly used at Cloudflare too. You're probably browsing pages piped via Rust services every day.

darzu 4y ago

Microsoft has been using it internally as well.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago
I look forward to seeing Rust# (or R# for maximum confusion).
runevault 4y ago
Yeah. They are both writing code in Rust and also dabbling in creating a language of their own to see how that goes, not necessarily with the intent of releasing it, but at least exploring the space from first principles instead of being incumbered by Rust's decisions. I think the name started with V but I cannot find it right now with quick Googling.
- rascul 4y ago
  I believe you're thinking of Project Verona. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-verona/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-ver...
  - runevault 4y ago
    This is it, thank you for digging it up!
  - darzu 4y ago
    I wouldn't put much stock in MSR languages until they get usage in other orgs. There's at least a dozen research languages in flight at a given point in time. They used to have this great site were you could interact with them all: https://web.archive.org/web/20180130101736/https://www.rise4fun.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180130101736/https://www.rise4... Source: I'm a former member of RiSE
    - runevault 4y ago
      Verona is less interesting in the language that I expect to make it into the world sense and more they may learn things while exploring safety that can be applied by someone else. Rust does a lot of good with exploring the safety space, but I hope we don't simply let that be the end of any exploration of building safety into the language at a deep level.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      To be fair, many modern C# features have started their life in MSR languages and eventually found their way to C#. It is also where F# started, although they seem not yet to know where to push it, or if it was a good idea to actually box it in VS 2010.

pjmlp 4y ago

Note that on Android it is only endorsed for system code by Google itself and OEMs, officially there are no plans to support it on the NDK, or Android Studio.

runevault 4y ago
Yeah sorry I should have been more specific that I meant used in the operating system. That was my bad.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Nothing prevents Google to eventually change their mind in regards to its support on userspace, however given how the NDK has been managed all these years (as a kind of side project at least from the outside), I pretty much doubt it.
  - runevault 4y ago
    Right the future could be anything, so we might as well just talk about the present.

pornel 4y ago

It's commonly used at Cloudflare too. You're probably browsing pages piped via Rust services every day.