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> Also this fascination with NYC and it's trash situation is such a tired and frankly disingenuous dig at the city If only trash was the only issue. Walk arou

> Also this fascination with NYC and it's trash situation is such a tired and frankly disingenuous dig at the city If only trash was the only issue. Walk around Chinatown on hot days and you can smell the fish juice the stores dump into the streets/sidewalks baking in the sun. Then yes, you have the huge piles of garbage bags on the streets everywhere. But really what I was referring to was the infestation in many buildings of some combination of mice, rats, cockroaches, and bedbugs. This includes Manhattan and the outer boroughs and includes buildings where you're paying $3k/month to rent a tiny apartment. The rat problem in UES is particularly bad. They're everywhere. Of course there's the homeless pee all over midtown that you get to randomly get a nice whiff of as you're walking around. Or the upscale neighborhoods where everyone owns a little dog (so there are hundreds of them on the same small set of sidewalks) covered in pee every morning. I'm actually amazed that anyone who's lived in the city would deny that it's filthy, it's so obvious to me that I didn't expect that to be controversial.

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago
You are catastrophizing relatively small and isolated issues. In my time in NYC (7 years), I know of 1 person who got bedbugs. Never met anybody with a mice or rat problem. I've seen more rats in Chicago than I ever did in NYC. They primarily confine themselves to the subway, where in Chi they're running around the alleys. Either you're in that relative minority or you are completely blowing the problem out of proportion.
- user3939382 4y ago
  It’s not my intention to be argumentative but we’ve somehow just had completely different experiences. I’ve had many friends, and personally experienced, the problem with mice and cockroaches in buildings. The rats tend to be outside but they’re not confined to the subway. They’re in the bushes in all the parks, in the trash areas in front of almost all buildings at least in UES, under outdoor dining decks, everywhere. I kicked one by accident while walking down the street one night. It may also be a time period thing. When COVID began the rat problem was already bad but for some reason got much worse since.

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago

You are catastrophizing relatively small and isolated issues. In my time in NYC (7 years), I know of 1 person who got bedbugs. Never met anybody with a mice or rat problem. I've seen more rats in Chicago than I ever did in NYC. They primarily confine themselves to the subway, where in Chi they're running around the alleys. Either you're in that relative minority or you are completely blowing the problem out of proportion.

user3939382 4y ago
It’s not my intention to be argumentative but we’ve somehow just had completely different experiences. I’ve had many friends, and personally experienced, the problem with mice and cockroaches in buildings. The rats tend to be outside but they’re not confined to the subway. They’re in the bushes in all the parks, in the trash areas in front of almost all buildings at least in UES, under outdoor dining decks, everywhere. I kicked one by accident while walking down the street one night. It may also be a time period thing. When COVID began the rat problem was already bad but for some reason got much worse since.