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Couldn’t possibly disagree more; that’s akin to saying that feature identification is not useful, because if we really wanted to we could just deliver a list of

Couldn’t possibly disagree more; that’s akin to saying that feature identification is not useful, because if we really wanted to we could just deliver a list of identifiable features along with every photograph. The point of this, obviously, is not to make it easier for machines to construct LEGO sets. It’s just a really clever problem space to do research into improving machine vision and image interpretation: it’s complicated enough to run into meaningful challenges, but constrained enough to make progress achievable. (The “Minecraft” dataset mentioned sounds like a simpler baby-steps version of the same, since there’s a much more limited set of possible shapes and connections to work with.) Plus they get to be the fun lab with all the LEGOs in it

YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
>> Couldn’t possibly disagree more; that’s akin to saying that feature identification is not useful, because if we really wanted to we could just deliver a list of identifiable features along with every photograph. These are not arbitrary photographs but images of legos. The features needed are few and finite and there's no need for machine vision to find them. This is pointless and has no real-world usefulness, other than to look like "the fun lab with all the legos", like you say.
- outsidetheparty 4y ago
  Again: you somehow appear to have missed the point that this is a research project, not a SaaS proposal. It is not intended to have "real world usefulness", it's intended to advance the science of feature identification and image recognition. You know: science. You're a PhD student yourself, which makes it especially confusing that you appear to believe research has no value in its own right. You are of course correct that these are not arbitrary photographs. Again: it's a domain containing enough complexity to offer meaningful challenges, but constrained enough to allow achievable progress. > The features needed are few and finite and there's no need for machine vision to find them. Finite, sure. Few, not so much; there are thousands of distinct types of LEGO block. If you're going to try to make the case that these diagrams can just be trivially parsed into the corresponding parts, orientation, and connections, while also accounting for occlusion of elements and model rotation across diagrams... well, you're probably going to have to try a lot harder to make that case than by just stating it as fact.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
    >> Again: you somehow appear to have missed the point that this is a research project, not a SaaS proposal. It is not intended to have "real world usefulness", it's intended to advance the science of feature identification and image recognition. You know: science. You're a PhD student yourself, which makes it especially confusing that you appear to believe research has no value in its own right. Your comment is aggressive and a personal attack, and for this reason I'm not engaging you further.

YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago

>> Couldn’t possibly disagree more; that’s akin to saying that feature identification is not useful, because if we really wanted to we could just deliver a list of identifiable features along with every photograph. These are not arbitrary photographs but images of legos. The features needed are few and finite and there's no need for machine vision to find them. This is pointless and has no real-world usefulness, other than to look like "the fun lab with all the legos", like you say.

outsidetheparty 4y ago
Again: you somehow appear to have missed the point that this is a research project, not a SaaS proposal. It is not intended to have "real world usefulness", it's intended to advance the science of feature identification and image recognition. You know: science. You're a PhD student yourself, which makes it especially confusing that you appear to believe research has no value in its own right. You are of course correct that these are not arbitrary photographs. Again: it's a domain containing enough complexity to offer meaningful challenges, but constrained enough to allow achievable progress. > The features needed are few and finite and there's no need for machine vision to find them. Finite, sure. Few, not so much; there are thousands of distinct types of LEGO block. If you're going to try to make the case that these diagrams can just be trivially parsed into the corresponding parts, orientation, and connections, while also accounting for occlusion of elements and model rotation across diagrams... well, you're probably going to have to try a lot harder to make that case than by just stating it as fact.
- YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
  >> Again: you somehow appear to have missed the point that this is a research project, not a SaaS proposal. It is not intended to have "real world usefulness", it's intended to advance the science of feature identification and image recognition. You know: science. You're a PhD student yourself, which makes it especially confusing that you appear to believe research has no value in its own right. Your comment is aggressive and a personal attack, and for this reason I'm not engaging you further.