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But their pricing is insane. Importantly, the reports of people losing everything is insane. Further, the guys just went and banned/blocked anyone making any co

But their pricing is insane. Importantly, the reports of people losing everything is insane. Further, the guys just went and banned/blocked anyone making any complaint on Reddit or Twitter. Their tech stack also sounds dumb. I stopped using their tool on principle on top of the insane pricing.

mandmandam 4y ago
Don't know about the tech stack, but the first three are each complete deal-breakers on their own. The pricing truly is nutty. $165 a year for foldable bullet points??!! Gtfo. I wouldn't pay that much to own the app outright. I sincerely hope they lose their lunch, and I feel bad for having recommended them to people.
- austenallred 4y ago
  $165/year for software isn’t nutty. Stuff is expensive to build. If it’s useful enough you pay. If it’s not you don’t. I believe the tech stack is clojure, which makes a ton of sense given that the data store is basically a graph database.
  - desku 4y ago
    How is £$165/year not nutty? That is more than I pay per year for Amazon Prime, Spotify, Disney+, MLB or The Economist. All for basically being able to just write text in a browser and store it.
  - ramraj07 4y ago
    I do grant you that for some prolific (borderline pathological?) note takers who wouldn’t mind paying that money for an app they spend a lot of their time in. That’s why the price alone was not a dealbreaker for me. The other points were though.
  - kstrauser 4y ago
    In a vacuum, perhaps $165/yr would be OK for some people. But when compared to other options that are mostly as nice for a fraction of the price, it's a bit much for me.
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- selykg 4y ago
  Obsidian's price is pretty nutty as well. I got lucky and snagged the sync product before they doubled the price, so I'm grandfathered into that. But even $50/yr is a fair bit given it's really just a storage mechanism. $50 isn't that bad, but I would give a hard no at the full price of $100/yr. Worse, the publish feature... holy insanity this thing is. $192/yr to publish a single repository.
  - oigursh 4y ago
    $10/mo for syncing 3MB of text is what failed Obsidian for me. They wouldn't offer a reduction.
    - selykg 4y ago
      Yea, it's pretty bad. My vaults aren't even 3mb, so it's really expensive, regardless. I just don't understand at all how they came up with the pricing. If they need to make money, make the app a paid product for like $10 or $15. Everything they put a price tag on is astronomical. * Catalyst (for early access) $25+ * Commercial $50 per year * Sync $8/mo ($96/yr) * Publish $16/mo ($192/yr) The app remains free, so it's clear they're trying to subsidize the cost of the app by cranking up the dial on the extra services, but I'd rather they just charge a reasonable price for the app and make the addon services reasonably priced. I'd be happy to pay like $10/yr for the app, and if, presumably, enough others were it would probably make them MORE money than the add-on services because a larger portion of their user base would have to pay for the app, and probably wouldn't shit a brick at $10/yr or something reasonable.
bachmeier 4y ago
> Further, the guys just went and banned/blocked anyone making any complaint on Reddit or Twitter. It wasn't "the guys". It was the CEO. He believes the best use of his time is monitoring Reddit threads and banning people. He posted an official policy that any negative comment or any mention of a competing app is a permanent ban - even if you're a paying customer. I gave Roam a comprehensive evaluation last year before deciding to go with Obsidian, and paying for Obsidian Sync. I posted a short comment in one of the threads listing the reasons I didn't go with Roam. He could have learned from my comment. He could have ignored it. He banned me. A few days later, he banned Ramses Oudt, the leading community advocate for Roam, for making a negative comment. That's a little more drama than I'd like for a notetaking app I'm paying to use.
Scarbutt 4y ago
What's their tech stack?
- bribri 4y ago
  Clojure, dart, and firebase.

mandmandam 4y ago

Don't know about the tech stack, but the first three are each complete deal-breakers on their own. The pricing truly is nutty. $165 a year for foldable bullet points??!! Gtfo. I wouldn't pay that much to own the app outright. I sincerely hope they lose their lunch, and I feel bad for having recommended them to people.

austenallred 4y ago
$165/year for software isn’t nutty. Stuff is expensive to build. If it’s useful enough you pay. If it’s not you don’t. I believe the tech stack is clojure, which makes a ton of sense given that the data store is basically a graph database.
- desku 4y ago
  How is £$165/year not nutty? That is more than I pay per year for Amazon Prime, Spotify, Disney+, MLB or The Economist. All for basically being able to just write text in a browser and store it.
- ramraj07 4y ago
  I do grant you that for some prolific (borderline pathological?) note takers who wouldn’t mind paying that money for an app they spend a lot of their time in. That’s why the price alone was not a dealbreaker for me. The other points were though.
- kstrauser 4y ago
  In a vacuum, perhaps $165/yr would be OK for some people. But when compared to other options that are mostly as nice for a fraction of the price, it's a bit much for me.
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selykg 4y ago
Obsidian's price is pretty nutty as well. I got lucky and snagged the sync product before they doubled the price, so I'm grandfathered into that. But even $50/yr is a fair bit given it's really just a storage mechanism. $50 isn't that bad, but I would give a hard no at the full price of $100/yr. Worse, the publish feature... holy insanity this thing is. $192/yr to publish a single repository.
- oigursh 4y ago
  $10/mo for syncing 3MB of text is what failed Obsidian for me. They wouldn't offer a reduction.
  - selykg 4y ago
    Yea, it's pretty bad. My vaults aren't even 3mb, so it's really expensive, regardless. I just don't understand at all how they came up with the pricing. If they need to make money, make the app a paid product for like $10 or $15. Everything they put a price tag on is astronomical. * Catalyst (for early access) $25+ * Commercial $50 per year * Sync $8/mo ($96/yr) * Publish $16/mo ($192/yr) The app remains free, so it's clear they're trying to subsidize the cost of the app by cranking up the dial on the extra services, but I'd rather they just charge a reasonable price for the app and make the addon services reasonably priced. I'd be happy to pay like $10/yr for the app, and if, presumably, enough others were it would probably make them MORE money than the add-on services because a larger portion of their user base would have to pay for the app, and probably wouldn't shit a brick at $10/yr or something reasonable.

bachmeier 4y ago

> Further, the guys just went and banned/blocked anyone making any complaint on Reddit or Twitter. It wasn't "the guys". It was the CEO. He believes the best use of his time is monitoring Reddit threads and banning people. He posted an official policy that any negative comment or any mention of a competing app is a permanent ban - even if you're a paying customer. I gave Roam a comprehensive evaluation last year before deciding to go with Obsidian, and paying for Obsidian Sync. I posted a short comment in one of the threads listing the reasons I didn't go with Roam. He could have learned from my comment. He could have ignored it. He banned me. A few days later, he banned Ramses Oudt, the leading community advocate for Roam, for making a negative comment. That's a little more drama than I'd like for a notetaking app I'm paying to use.

Scarbutt 4y ago

What's their tech stack?

bribri 4y ago
Clojure, dart, and firebase.