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> It is basically a turd rolling down hill that nobody wants to touch and everyone wants to pass on to the next person. You’re just making assumptions without
by hnarn 4y ago
> It is basically a turd rolling down hill that nobody wants to touch and everyone wants to pass on to the next person.
You’re just making assumptions without referring to the facts.
Mullvad is a Swedish company and falls under Swedish and EU jurisdiction.
ISPs in the EU are indeed required to keep track on what subscriber had what IP at what point in time. Some do this gladly and some try their absolute best to sabotage the process (like Bahnhof).
However, Mullvad is a VPN provider. They are not an ISP. If you claim that Mullvad is legally required to log IPs, then source that claim, because they clearly are not and if that claim is true that would mean they are breaking the law, which I doubt they would be willfully doing.
In your example, the buck stops with the VPN provider (which again, is not an ISP) because the info they provide is of no use.
In some cases, the buck even stops with the ISP without a VPN, because in many jurisdictions there are demands placed upon the seriousness of the alleged crime to allow personal data to be supplied to law enforcement.
- mike_d 4y ago40% of Mullvad's servers are located in the United States, which gives them a US nexus and makes them subject to US law. Sweden and the US have a bilateral extradition treaty, so the operators could be arrested and brought to the US to face charges. The whole "based in X country" is just a gimmick.
- hnarn 4y agoCharges for what?
- mike_d 4y agoUS law has a concept of accessory-before-the-fact. Assisting in the concealment of a crime is in itself a crime. Unlike an accomplice, an accessory need not be aware of the specifics of the crime. This was a big stick wielded by US law enforcement against pre-paid phone operators in the early 2000s to compel cooperation. But you are really missing the forest for the trees here. If the crime against the US is serious enough, extra-judicial rendition is on the table. So is extra-judicial execution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleima... The idea of being based in a specific country giving you some sort of immunity is disingenuous.