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I always mention looking at working holiday visas to any friends who bemoans how hard it is to leave their country. For anyone below 30, it's often a very good

I always mention looking at working holiday visas to any friends who bemoans how hard it is to leave their country. For anyone below 30, it's often a very good pathway to immigrating, getting a job and eventually a more stable visa situation. I've also seen it combined with student visas, so one year on a student visa to learn the language (that costs more in most countries, although there are some countries with relatively cheap language courses and possibility to work for up to 20 hours a week, example Japan or France) then a working holiday visa and then finding a sponsor.

coldtea 4y ago
In many cases you don't even need a "working holiday visa" to go and live somewhere else. E.g. if you have a remote job, you can just travel to a third country and work from there. Most countries just require that you get out for a few days per 3 or 6 months (which can be just visiting a nearby country, staying in a hotel, and returning) to renew your plain tourist visa.
- nicolas_t 4y ago
  I'd be careful with this. I've done that in the past in Malaysia, going through the border from Malaysia to Thailand every 3 months.. Eventually when I took a plan from the airport to travel somewhere else, I got questioned by immigration because of the patterns of staying 3 months and then leaving for a few days. They asked me how I could finance my stays and told me that any work I was doing while in Malaysia remotely violated my visa. In the end, nothing happened but ymmv. I also know a few people who did the same in HK and eventually got into trouble because of that. I do think it works well but it's not a long term plan and if you do it, you must plan with potentially being denied entry eventually.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >I do think it works well but it's not a long term plan and if you do it, you must plan with potentially being denied entry eventually. First, absolutely, the latter can happen at some point. Second, however, I know tons of people that did it just fine with no issue for years. YMMV
- CalRobert 4y ago
  Indeed, though I've always been a "cross my t's and dot my i's" kind of person. Keeping things above board saved me a lot of worry. It worked out nicely; as an Irish citizen I still have the right to live and work in both the EU/EEA and the UK, which is handy.

coldtea 4y ago

In many cases you don't even need a "working holiday visa" to go and live somewhere else. E.g. if you have a remote job, you can just travel to a third country and work from there. Most countries just require that you get out for a few days per 3 or 6 months (which can be just visiting a nearby country, staying in a hotel, and returning) to renew your plain tourist visa.

nicolas_t 4y ago
I'd be careful with this. I've done that in the past in Malaysia, going through the border from Malaysia to Thailand every 3 months.. Eventually when I took a plan from the airport to travel somewhere else, I got questioned by immigration because of the patterns of staying 3 months and then leaving for a few days. They asked me how I could finance my stays and told me that any work I was doing while in Malaysia remotely violated my visa. In the end, nothing happened but ymmv. I also know a few people who did the same in HK and eventually got into trouble because of that. I do think it works well but it's not a long term plan and if you do it, you must plan with potentially being denied entry eventually.
- coldtea 4y ago
  >I do think it works well but it's not a long term plan and if you do it, you must plan with potentially being denied entry eventually. First, absolutely, the latter can happen at some point. Second, however, I know tons of people that did it just fine with no issue for years. YMMV
CalRobert 4y ago
Indeed, though I've always been a "cross my t's and dot my i's" kind of person. Keeping things above board saved me a lot of worry. It worked out nicely; as an Irish citizen I still have the right to live and work in both the EU/EEA and the UK, which is handy.