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You don't have to be drunk or high to have hallucinations.

jiggywiggy 4y ago
Hallucinations are often not religious experiences. Most often when people feel it's religious it's connected to a deep sense of meaning. This can be accompanied to drugs and or hallucinations but doesn't have to. Often connected to feeling of perception of self dissolving, not having any seperatioe, feeling fully one or dissolving into the "outer" world
5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
Not at all surprised this is getting downvoted. There's a decent book on this theme: https://www.amazon.com/Hallucinations-Oliver-Sacks/dp/0307947432/ https://www.amazon.com/Hallucinations-Oliver-Sacks/dp/030794... where the author postulates that a decent portion of society experiences hallucinations at least once in their lifetime without any "helpers" like drugs or sleep deprivation. (I don't remember the exact percentage, read that thing ages ago). I think this is how religions get started.
- coldtea 4y ago
  This is neither here, nor there. Not all hallucinations are religious. And not all religious experiences are hallucinations. In fact, when we talking about a specific kind of experience, the term hallucination has no meaning. You're not "seeing things", you're feeling and thinking things. So there's no relevance at all to whether they're "really there". You could have a religious experience by runinating on something that's actually, 100% there (e.g. an experience with near death from a car accident that makes you appreciate life in a religious way, or even a nice sunset).
- zargon 4y ago
  It's not the factual accuracy of the comment that's getting downvoted, it's the disrespectful attitude, tactless delivery, and/or assumptions about the nature of a religious experience.
  - itsoktocry 4y ago
    >it's the disrespectful attitude, tactless delivery, and/or assumptions about the nature of a religious experience. What on earth are you reading to get this? The parent is a concise statement of fact: You don't have to be drunk or high to have hallucinations. How is that anything like you describe? How is it "tactless" and "disrespectful"? How does it assume anything? Try applying the most charitable view to the comments.
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Hallucinations are often not religious experiences. Most often when people feel it's religious it's connected to a deep sense of meaning. This can be accompanied to drugs and or hallucinations but doesn't have to. Often connected to feeling of perception of self dissolving, not having any seperatioe, feeling fully one or dissolving into the "outer" world

5e92cb50239222b 4y ago

Not at all surprised this is getting downvoted. There's a decent book on this theme: https://www.amazon.com/Hallucinations-Oliver-Sacks/dp/0307947432/ https://www.amazon.com/Hallucinations-Oliver-Sacks/dp/030794... where the author postulates that a decent portion of society experiences hallucinations at least once in their lifetime without any "helpers" like drugs or sleep deprivation. (I don't remember the exact percentage, read that thing ages ago). I think this is how religions get started.

coldtea 4y ago
This is neither here, nor there. Not all hallucinations are religious. And not all religious experiences are hallucinations. In fact, when we talking about a specific kind of experience, the term hallucination has no meaning. You're not "seeing things", you're feeling and thinking things. So there's no relevance at all to whether they're "really there". You could have a religious experience by runinating on something that's actually, 100% there (e.g. an experience with near death from a car accident that makes you appreciate life in a religious way, or even a nice sunset).
zargon 4y ago
It's not the factual accuracy of the comment that's getting downvoted, it's the disrespectful attitude, tactless delivery, and/or assumptions about the nature of a religious experience.
- itsoktocry 4y ago
  >it's the disrespectful attitude, tactless delivery, and/or assumptions about the nature of a religious experience. What on earth are you reading to get this? The parent is a concise statement of fact: You don't have to be drunk or high to have hallucinations. How is that anything like you describe? How is it "tactless" and "disrespectful"? How does it assume anything? Try applying the most charitable view to the comments.

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