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Getting people onboard of Matrix clients vs Signal in daily life will be difficult.

by morjom 4y ago

chitowneats 4y ago
Rats. If only we had figured out how to get them to switch from TikTok and WhatsApp to Signal I'm sure we'd be Gucci. /s Almost no one uses Signal outside of your social bubble.
- uoaei 4y ago
  What is your vendetta here?
- rvz 4y ago
  Totally correct. The problem on this comments here is that many of them insert their own anecdotes as evidence. It isn't evidence. > Almost no one uses Signal outside of your social bubble. There is evidence support that claim. From [0]: "25.97% of participants wanted to switch to other apps (at least partially) due to the update, but only a quarter of those succeeded." "Only 0.5% of participants uninstalled WhatsApp. The data shows how installing a new app is easy, but leaving an app is not, mainly due to strong network effects, differences in functionality of different apps, and feeling a loss of control over the distribution of contacts across apps." So that wasn't the so called 'mass migration' that was religiously believed by the Signal fans here. In fact, they are still using WhatsApp or Telegram. [0] https://medium.com/@carlagriggio/the-great-messaging-app-migration-that-didnt-really-happen-56af637bc5d8 https://medium.com/@carlagriggio/the-great-messaging-app-mig...
cardanome 4y ago
I have multiple non-technical friend groups that uses Signal for communications. Onboarding is absolutely not in issue. Some people refuse to use Whatsapp because of privacy and general evil monopolist issues and Telegram also has also been getting a bad reputation for hosting hate groups and such. So if you want to get everyone on board, Signal is the neutral territory to go for. Signal is absolutely mainstream, at least here in Germany. My 60-something landlord uses Signal to communicate with me.
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  I think GP meant that moving someone to Matrix/Element is much harder than moving them to Signal.

Getting people onboard of Matrix clients vs Signal in daily life will be difficult.

by morjom 4y ago

Getting people onboard of Matrix clients vs Signal in daily life will be difficult.

Rats. If only we had figured out how to get them to switch from TikTok and WhatsApp to Signal I'm sure we'd be Gucci. /s Almost no one uses Signal outside of your social bubble.

uoaei 4y ago
What is your vendetta here?
rvz 4y ago
Totally correct. The problem on this comments here is that many of them insert their own anecdotes as evidence. It isn't evidence. > Almost no one uses Signal outside of your social bubble. There is evidence support that claim. From [0]: "25.97% of participants wanted to switch to other apps (at least partially) due to the update, but only a quarter of those succeeded." "Only 0.5% of participants uninstalled WhatsApp. The data shows how installing a new app is easy, but leaving an app is not, mainly due to strong network effects, differences in functionality of different apps, and feeling a loss of control over the distribution of contacts across apps." So that wasn't the so called 'mass migration' that was religiously believed by the Signal fans here. In fact, they are still using WhatsApp or Telegram. [0] https://medium.com/@carlagriggio/the-great-messaging-app-migration-that-didnt-really-happen-56af637bc5d8 https://medium.com/@carlagriggio/the-great-messaging-app-mig...

cardanome 4y ago

I have multiple non-technical friend groups that uses Signal for communications. Onboarding is absolutely not in issue. Some people refuse to use Whatsapp because of privacy and general evil monopolist issues and Telegram also has also been getting a bad reputation for hosting hate groups and such. So if you want to get everyone on board, Signal is the neutral territory to go for. Signal is absolutely mainstream, at least here in Germany. My 60-something landlord uses Signal to communicate with me.

tsimionescu 4y ago
I think GP meant that moving someone to Matrix/Element is much harder than moving them to Signal.