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Lol sounds like we are similar people. I also enjoyed reading your massive profile. BTW w.r.t. the OODA-loop I suppose you've made the connection with the chin

Lol sounds like we are similar people. I also enjoyed reading your massive profile. BTW w.r.t. the OODA-loop I suppose you've made the connection with the chinese five element system? This is a general theory of digestion fwict, for example yoga has five stages of breathing, impro (by keith johnstone) has five stages of overcoming shame (unlocking creativity) etc. There is also the overcoming cycle though, it's not just the generating relations!

themodelplumber 4y ago
The massive profile is only here to please! I don't know five elements from five animals...wait, actually I know about five animals. Does that count? Five sailors in Captain Ron. Five toes on my right hand. Damn it shows up everywhere! Seriously though I'll have to look into that, got me feeling proper cretinous throwing those casual supposals around!
- openfuture 4y ago
  The chinese five element system is made from the generating and overcoming relations (pentagram, pentagon, resp.) if the labels you put on this structure don't produce a nice "story" when you traverse along either cycle (such as with the five fingers or whatever) then it doesn't fit very well now does it? Your labels are similar to the ones Keith uses in Impro, they have been very insightful on my own journey so I think you've probably helped lots of people with your model, if this hint can help you improve your model then that would be a positive. One cool five that I've found is the ancient egyptian model of eloquence, may want to look into that.
  - themodelplumber 4y ago
    > if the labels you put on this structure don't produce a nice "story" Aha! I know this pattern. I've seen this kind of thinking form into a good fit for affinity groups which metabolize esoterica and sequence-relations really well. People who like to wear newsboy caps also seem to love this stuff for some reason. Groups which google "pseudoscience {your-model-name}" as soon as something sounds even remotely like it's got a story behind it as opposed to mechanistic research--this is a different setup and IMO there are other patterns that get really good results. One of which is disconnecting from story and even sequence in some ways. Again just IMO. Thanks for the tip on the the AEMoE as well.

themodelplumber 4y ago

The massive profile is only here to please! I don't know five elements from five animals...wait, actually I know about five animals. Does that count? Five sailors in Captain Ron. Five toes on my right hand. Damn it shows up everywhere! Seriously though I'll have to look into that, got me feeling proper cretinous throwing those casual supposals around!

openfuture 4y ago
The chinese five element system is made from the generating and overcoming relations (pentagram, pentagon, resp.) if the labels you put on this structure don't produce a nice "story" when you traverse along either cycle (such as with the five fingers or whatever) then it doesn't fit very well now does it? Your labels are similar to the ones Keith uses in Impro, they have been very insightful on my own journey so I think you've probably helped lots of people with your model, if this hint can help you improve your model then that would be a positive. One cool five that I've found is the ancient egyptian model of eloquence, may want to look into that.
- themodelplumber 4y ago
  > if the labels you put on this structure don't produce a nice "story" Aha! I know this pattern. I've seen this kind of thinking form into a good fit for affinity groups which metabolize esoterica and sequence-relations really well. People who like to wear newsboy caps also seem to love this stuff for some reason. Groups which google "pseudoscience {your-model-name}" as soon as something sounds even remotely like it's got a story behind it as opposed to mechanistic research--this is a different setup and IMO there are other patterns that get really good results. One of which is disconnecting from story and even sequence in some ways. Again just IMO. Thanks for the tip on the the AEMoE as well.