It’s ok. You missed the several times I pointed out that’s what I’m trying to get at, that it isn’t a solved problem of identification, or even terminology. Y

It’s ok. You missed the several times I pointed out that’s what I’m trying to get at, that it isn’t a solved problem of identification, or even terminology. You almost commented on that as a difficulty. Couldn’t keep from making it negative, but again that’s to be expected. It is a frustrating problem. Your frustration isn’t unique. There’s not a lot of easy explanations in old books. That would indeed be a comfort. Humans keep seeking it. Having a change of heart? Or preparing another barb? I’ll be here. Take your time.