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This is interesting to me because Seinfeld is a stabilizer-rationalist in general temperament. (Even if he didn't invent it, the concept REALLY fits his style w
by themodelplumber 4y ago
This is interesting to me because Seinfeld is a stabilizer-rationalist in general temperament. (Even if he didn't invent it, the concept REALLY fits his style well)
He will generally tend to give you bell-curve advice based on stabilizing a routine.
Seinfeld likes Cheerios and Superman and the old stand-bys and so on. This is a bell-curve person who sees that curve, socially and behaviorally speaking, as finding sanity.
(IMO he is also likely terrified of displaying what he sees as a latent insanity. But that's just my opinion, for fun, etc.)
To me--I can't get sustainable results that way. What's stable for me is irrational for Seinfeld, or for someone who finds this kind of technique sustainable.
For example, one of my favorite ways to not procrastinate a thing you are trying to do is to teach it. Guess what, class starts tomorrow and you don't know jack. Or to start at the end, connect with experts, and learn it backwards, eventually ending up at first principles.
This is not rational or bell curvy unless you redefine rational and bell curve based on a new context.
IMO if you aren't a routine-based person to begin with, these kinds of routine-based hacks, using chain metaphors and such, can be risky to your sense of well-being. First, they sound rational & make sense. And second, when they don't work--for whatever reason--they make you feel _special_ in the wrong way. Maybe more like "different" in that you feel really hopeless or dumb.
God, I broke the damn chain again! Sometimes it's enough to make you want to start googling up "chain-breaking ADHD" or something.
One of the most interesting questions I've found to determine the difference in subjects/suitable people for this kind of work is: "Do you sometimes feel like you are meant to live like a cat, passing days, weeks, maybe even months without making meaningful progress, then BOOM one day the big plan starts as if by itself, and you do something amazing?" If yes, then probably focusing on a don't-break-the-chain model is looking in the wrong place. But not to worry, there are gobs of ways to get where you need to go!
(Another crazy opinion of mine is that if you are an autodidact, depending on how autodidactic you are, you should probably not be learning by rote or routine-focused means.)
Still, I love that this particular model comes with a well-known personality attached to it, and for a variety of reasons I wish more productivity models were like that.
- JackMorgan 4y agoIs the term "stabilizer rationalist" just off the cuff, or is it something from a larger categorization, perhaps from a book?
- themodelplumber 4y agoBoth. If you want an introduction to the topic framed objectively, you'll want to start with Linda Berens, David Keirsey, etc. They will use words like those. Linda taught me about this stuff, and my own coach connected me to Keirsey's work. See the upper-right quadrant in the table on this page: https://lindaberens.com/resources/methodology-articles/temperament-theory/ https://lindaberens.com/resources/methodology-articles/tempe... Groups of people like you find in tech communities, for contrast, are usually found in that lower-left zone. But also, they are words that I use for my own work because they fit really well and offer a lot of reliable leverage in context. So I am not using these to reference the work of those particular individuals so much as I'm using them because they fit and also because I like them. In fact Linda might tilt her head at my use of rationalist along with stabilizer, until she understands what I mean by that (social bell curve; this is connected to Jungian and post-Jungian theory as well).
- openfuture 4y agoLol sounds like we are similar people. I also enjoyed reading your massive profile. BTW w.r.t. the OODA-loop I suppose you've made the connection with the chinese five element system? This is a general theory of digestion fwict, for example yoga has five stages of breathing, impro (by keith johnstone) has five stages of overcoming shame (unlocking creativity) etc. There is also the overcoming cycle though, it's not just the generating relations!
- themodelplumber 4y agoThe massive profile is only here to please! I don't know five elements from five animals...wait, actually I know about five animals. Does that count? Five sailors in Captain Ron. Five toes on my right hand. Damn it shows up everywhere! Seriously though I'll have to look into that, got me feeling proper cretinous throwing those casual supposals around!
- openfuture 4y agoThe chinese five element system is made from the generating and overcoming relations (pentagram, pentagon, resp.) if the labels you put on this structure don't produce a nice "story" when you traverse along either cycle (such as with the five fingers or whatever) then it doesn't fit very well now does it? Your labels are similar to the ones Keith uses in Impro, they have been very insightful on my own journey so I think you've probably helped lots of people with your model, if this hint can help you improve your model then that would be a positive. One cool five that I've found is the ancient egyptian model of eloquence, may want to look into that.
- themodelplumber 4y ago> if the labels you put on this structure don't produce a nice "story" Aha! I know this pattern. I've seen this kind of thinking form into a good fit for affinity groups which metabolize esoterica and sequence-relations really well. People who like to wear newsboy caps also seem to love this stuff for some reason. Groups which google "pseudoscience {your-model-name}" as soon as something sounds even remotely like it's got a story behind it as opposed to mechanistic research--this is a different setup and IMO there are other patterns that get really good results. One of which is disconnecting from story and even sequence in some ways. Again just IMO. Thanks for the tip on the the AEMoE as well.