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by dane-pgp 4y ago

"ex-".

rolph 4y ago
the thing about CIA is everyone of thier agents ive ever met was "retired"
- natpalmer1776 4y ago
  You're not supposed to disclose you work for the CIA while you work for the CIA. So naturally the only people you would meet who would tell you they work(ed) for the CIA are going to be retired. Even during the interview process you're encouraged[0] not to tell anyone you're applying to the CIA. [0] https://www.cia.gov/careers/how-we-hire/hiring-process/ https://www.cia.gov/careers/how-we-hire/hiring-process/ ... see "Discretion" under "More Considerations"
  - throwaway654329 4y ago
    It depends on the assignment. In some areas, the CIA officers are openly recruiting such as in the “internet freedom” space. Often they are unofficially under cover as U.S. State Department but they don’t make much of an effort to hide it. Example: if they think it will impress you into joining them as an officer. Worse example: if they want to make you into an asset, they will toss out threats like candy on Halloween once they have dirt on you.
- jonstewart 4y ago
  CIA employees are “officers”. The people they recruit to give them intel are “agents.” “Special Agents” is the bog standard title for internal employees of the FBI, where all the agents are special.
_8j50 4y ago
You never really leave the CIA. It's a life long commitent because you know secrets and if you can be valuable in your normal life you become an asset instead of an officer or analyst.
- vintermann 4y ago
  And you will get paid for looking after your "ex" employer's interests, even if not actually with a paycheck (though there's been cases of that too). Big corporations aren't the only ones who know how to grease revolving doors.
- zaphirplane 4y ago
  Is this a fact or deductive reasoning
  - _8j50 4y ago
    Rumor and deductive reasoning. They're not exactly going to publish that former cia officers maintain an asset relationship because that would render them useless.
  - throwaway654329 4y ago
    It’s a fact about lifetime obligations that come with holding a clearance and a fact related to learning national defense information under those cleared conditions. It’s a often referenced as a Faustian bargain for a reason: they own part of you for life, some joke that it is your soul since you can’t say the things that might be good for the world. Simple example: if you write a book after you “leave” - they will demand a review to censor it before publication. If you write even as much as a blog post which includes information about the CIA, it’s the same expectation: you will let them approve or censor your words before you publish it. Normal people don’t suffer from prior restraint but this comes with the life time obligations. Some people have refused, of course. Depending on what one writes, it may or may not be a legal or personal or political problem. Surprisingly or not, going big may make a difference - almost like a one party system which wants to hide this from the general public...

"ex-".

rolph 4y ago

the thing about CIA is everyone of thier agents ive ever met was "retired"

natpalmer1776 4y ago
You're not supposed to disclose you work for the CIA while you work for the CIA. So naturally the only people you would meet who would tell you they work(ed) for the CIA are going to be retired. Even during the interview process you're encouraged[0] not to tell anyone you're applying to the CIA. [0] https://www.cia.gov/careers/how-we-hire/hiring-process/ https://www.cia.gov/careers/how-we-hire/hiring-process/ ... see "Discretion" under "More Considerations"
- throwaway654329 4y ago
  It depends on the assignment. In some areas, the CIA officers are openly recruiting such as in the “internet freedom” space. Often they are unofficially under cover as U.S. State Department but they don’t make much of an effort to hide it. Example: if they think it will impress you into joining them as an officer. Worse example: if they want to make you into an asset, they will toss out threats like candy on Halloween once they have dirt on you.
jonstewart 4y ago
CIA employees are “officers”. The people they recruit to give them intel are “agents.” “Special Agents” is the bog standard title for internal employees of the FBI, where all the agents are special.

_8j50 4y ago

You never really leave the CIA. It's a life long commitent because you know secrets and if you can be valuable in your normal life you become an asset instead of an officer or analyst.

vintermann 4y ago
And you will get paid for looking after your "ex" employer's interests, even if not actually with a paycheck (though there's been cases of that too). Big corporations aren't the only ones who know how to grease revolving doors.
zaphirplane 4y ago
Is this a fact or deductive reasoning
- _8j50 4y ago
  Rumor and deductive reasoning. They're not exactly going to publish that former cia officers maintain an asset relationship because that would render them useless.
- throwaway654329 4y ago
  It’s a fact about lifetime obligations that come with holding a clearance and a fact related to learning national defense information under those cleared conditions. It’s a often referenced as a Faustian bargain for a reason: they own part of you for life, some joke that it is your soul since you can’t say the things that might be good for the world. Simple example: if you write a book after you “leave” - they will demand a review to censor it before publication. If you write even as much as a blog post which includes information about the CIA, it’s the same expectation: you will let them approve or censor your words before you publish it. Normal people don’t suffer from prior restraint but this comes with the life time obligations. Some people have refused, of course. Depending on what one writes, it may or may not be a legal or personal or political problem. Surprisingly or not, going big may make a difference - almost like a one party system which wants to hide this from the general public...