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> Oh it was peaceful when no one was stopping “protestors” from breaking whatever laws whenever they wanted? Yes, the streets were no longer filled with tear g
by seadan83 4y ago
> Oh it was peaceful when no one was stopping “protestors” from breaking whatever laws whenever they wanted?
Yes, the streets were no longer filled with tear gas and a small army of mostly men in armor and 4 foot batons hitting protestors. "Don't kill them, but hit them hard" https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-state-patrol-apologizes-after-officer-tells-his-team-dont-kill-them-but-hit-them-hard-in-reference-to-seattle-protesters/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-state-p...
"From June 1 to June 8, protesters and police in riot gear face off near SPD’s East Precinct headquarters. Seattle’s mayor would announce a temporary ban on tear gas, but the situation had already developed into a tinderbox."
"Tammy Morales: If police had just let people, who were protesting police brutality by the way, take up space and use their deescalation training instead of using tear gas and flash-bangs, things wouldn’t have escalated."
"Elizabeth Turnbull: I was one of those people who felt the feeling of acid in my lungs and the pain in my eyes, running with all these people in the dark, because we’re closing our eyes."
https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city-life/2021/06/history-of-chop-capitol-hill-protests-seattle https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city-life/2021/06/histor...
So yes, Seattle went from a warzone on Capitol hill that went on for a solid week to calm. That calm lasted for a full week - day & night. Eventually the CHOP did become unsafe at night, after that first week -due to an influx of homeless & campers.
There is an open controversy as well whether the police made the CHOP more dangerous by funneling gangs and dangerous people into it: "Activists claim that police allowed the violence to seep in by being absent from streets surrounding the CHOP." https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/seattle-chop-zone-police/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/seattle-chop-zone-police...
There is about 1 person fatally shot every 4 days in Seattle. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/not-seeing-it-slow-down-at-all-seattle-hits-grim-mark-of-13-homicides-in-1st-quarter-of-2022/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/not-se...
Ergo, week 2, the CHOP became essentially a homeless encampment, infiltrated by gangs and was less a protest zone at that point. Even with that going on, the level of violence observed there is still not strongly different than the average level of violence otherwise seen through-out Seattle in normal times. This is in contrast to dozens of daily injuries as police rioted against protestors.
- Pigalowda 4y agoWeek 2! That’s nothing! The site degenerated so quickly because it attracted people who did not want to obey laws - criminals, gangs, and homeless as you say. That’s just entropy. That’s such rapid decomposition. I hope the original message of CHOP was worth those more than average amount of deaths.