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It's not strange to me. iOS is far more restrictive in the type of programs it allows you to run and distribute, whereas Android allows sideloading and rooting.

It's not strange to me. iOS is far more restrictive in the type of programs it allows you to run and distribute, whereas Android allows sideloading and rooting. It's a variant of popper's paradox I suppose.

JacobThreeThree 4y ago
>iOS is far more restrictive in the type of programs it allows you to run and distribute, whereas Android allows sideloading and rooting. True, although lately they've been under more regulatory scrutiny so I highly doubt something like this would get disallowed, especially if the equivalent app is allowed on Android.
- cowtools 4y ago
  Depending on the government to step in and regulate corporate control is a fail-deadly system for freedom and should be avoided. The likelihood of the ruling government to support the interests of its citizens is dependent on the power (negotiating leverage) that the individual citizens have over large government-controlled institutions (inc. coporations). Authoritarian systems produce generally compounding effects, so the idea that we should just sit around and do nothing while they compound is dangerous. When the time comes that protesting surveilance, censorship, etc. is dire then it already be too late because government will have the powers of surveilance, censorship, etc. on its side to squash dissent. It is better to depend on systems (like FOSS) that are fail-safe for freedom. That is- they naturally err on the side of individual liberty. This is because authoritarian societies are non-recoverable and have to be rebooted by adjacent (free) societies.
mtgx 4y ago
citizenkeen 4y ago
pauper
- cowtools 4y ago
  the meek shall inherit the earth!
- nneonneo 4y ago
  Pretty sure they meant Popper’s Paradox. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance (Here, so the paradox would go, the tolerant society Android, gets hijacked by the less tolerant Apple.)
  - citizenkeen 4y ago
    TIL. Thank you, I stand corrected!
notlukesky 4y ago
Sideloading has always bothered me as a term. It infers an insidious process when you want to get out of the shackles of the gatekeepers. Pure marketing genius from the Apple folks who want to maintain their monopoly.
- filoleg 4y ago
  The term has been in existence since way before iPhones were a thing[0], and it doesn't generally have the connotation you are prescribing to it. We use that term at work right now on my team all the time, and it has nothing with app stores or gatekeeping or anything like that. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideloading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideloading
  - AnthonyMouse 4y ago
    When you download Firefox from firefox.com and install it on your Mac, it wasn't common to call that "sideloading" in the past. Making it the popular name for the same thing on mobile was the marketing.
    - dlivingston 4y ago
      > sideload /ˈsīdˌlōd/ > 1. install (software, especially an app) obtained from a third-party source rather than an official retailer. > 2. copy or transfer (data) from one device to another directly, typically by means of a link such as a USB cable or wireless connection. The Google Ngram for “sideloading” shows, like you mention, a measurable uptick in usage after the iPhone launch in 2007. Looking closer, there is a steep increase in frequency after the year 2000, with the steepest slope from 2005 - 2009. [1] [0]: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideloading&year_start=2000&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=true https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideloading&ye... [1]: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideload_*&year_start=1960&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=7 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideload_*&yea...
    - seanhunter 4y ago
      It wasn't common to call that sideloading because it isn't sideloading.

JacobThreeThree 4y ago

>iOS is far more restrictive in the type of programs it allows you to run and distribute, whereas Android allows sideloading and rooting. True, although lately they've been under more regulatory scrutiny so I highly doubt something like this would get disallowed, especially if the equivalent app is allowed on Android.

cowtools 4y ago
Depending on the government to step in and regulate corporate control is a fail-deadly system for freedom and should be avoided. The likelihood of the ruling government to support the interests of its citizens is dependent on the power (negotiating leverage) that the individual citizens have over large government-controlled institutions (inc. coporations). Authoritarian systems produce generally compounding effects, so the idea that we should just sit around and do nothing while they compound is dangerous. When the time comes that protesting surveilance, censorship, etc. is dire then it already be too late because government will have the powers of surveilance, censorship, etc. on its side to squash dissent. It is better to depend on systems (like FOSS) that are fail-safe for freedom. That is- they naturally err on the side of individual liberty. This is because authoritarian societies are non-recoverable and have to be rebooted by adjacent (free) societies.

mtgx 4y ago

citizenkeen 4y ago

pauper

cowtools 4y ago
the meek shall inherit the earth!
nneonneo 4y ago
Pretty sure they meant Popper’s Paradox. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance (Here, so the paradox would go, the tolerant society Android, gets hijacked by the less tolerant Apple.)
- citizenkeen 4y ago
  TIL. Thank you, I stand corrected!

notlukesky 4y ago

Sideloading has always bothered me as a term. It infers an insidious process when you want to get out of the shackles of the gatekeepers. Pure marketing genius from the Apple folks who want to maintain their monopoly.

filoleg 4y ago
The term has been in existence since way before iPhones were a thing[0], and it doesn't generally have the connotation you are prescribing to it. We use that term at work right now on my team all the time, and it has nothing with app stores or gatekeeping or anything like that. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideloading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideloading
- AnthonyMouse 4y ago
  When you download Firefox from firefox.com and install it on your Mac, it wasn't common to call that "sideloading" in the past. Making it the popular name for the same thing on mobile was the marketing.
  - dlivingston 4y ago
    > sideload /ˈsīdˌlōd/ > 1. install (software, especially an app) obtained from a third-party source rather than an official retailer. > 2. copy or transfer (data) from one device to another directly, typically by means of a link such as a USB cable or wireless connection. The Google Ngram for “sideloading” shows, like you mention, a measurable uptick in usage after the iPhone launch in 2007. Looking closer, there is a steep increase in frequency after the year 2000, with the steepest slope from 2005 - 2009. [1] [0]: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideloading&year_start=2000&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=true https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideloading&ye... [1]: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideload_*&year_start=1960&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=7 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sideload_*&yea...
  - seanhunter 4y ago
    It wasn't common to call that sideloading because it isn't sideloading.