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I bought one last Fall for sticker price and as the commute to my daughters school is 50 miles rt we fill the tank once a month or so. Basically a great gatew

I bought one last Fall for sticker price and as the commute to my daughters school is 50 miles rt we fill the tank once a month or so. Basically a great gateway drug to fully electric, which is what I want when I can get an F150 which is not taking orders atm.

hedora 4y ago
The pricing on the RAV4 is nuts. For that commute, you could sell it and buy a used low-range EV, like a 2018 BMW i3: https://driverbase.com/research/vehicles/bmw/i3/2018 https://driverbase.com/research/vehicles/bmw/i3/2018 and end up with ~$42K in pocket. (It is particularly inexpensive because they significantly improved the range in 2019. However, the 2018 would easily do your commute.) We ended up buying one in lieu of trading in an ICE pickup truck for a backordered electric F150. To me, the crazy thing is that we could apparently sell you the used i3 we bought earlier this year for a 36% profit, and you could end up with a 60% discount on the i3 (vs. pre-Ukraine prices) by switching to it from the RAV4!
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- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  I assume that when anything goes wrong with a BMW, and I assume it will relatively quickly, the repair costs will quickly close the gap on any initial savings.
  - MengerSponge 4y ago
    There's a lot less to go wrong in an all-electric vehicle. Not saying you can't have issues with fans or the seat-heaters (ahem), but you're not looking at an engine rebuild or even oil changes down the line
    - coredog64 4y ago
      The original Fiat 500es were a train wreck, even for a Fiat. They were super cheap, but all the stories of the owners who carried around specific wrenches in the back to disconnect and reconnect the battery as the easiest fix finally convinced me to pass.
- subpixel 4y ago
  All of this must be very geo-specific. Driverbase seems to geo by IP and prices around here are about 8k over MSRP, if they are even available.
dmtroyer 4y ago
you should probably at least consider selling it according to these numbers.
onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
> the commute to my daughters school is 50 miles rt That means it takes an hour to drive there and back?? Twice a day?!
- jkqwzsoo 4y ago
  I imagine they take a round trip, there and back, once a day.
  - subpixel 4y ago
    This
ricardobeat 4y ago
Holy crap, school is 25 miles out?
- subpixel 4y ago
  27 actually, but only through kindergarten, bc Montessori. First grade will be 8 miles.

hedora 4y ago

The pricing on the RAV4 is nuts. For that commute, you could sell it and buy a used low-range EV, like a 2018 BMW i3: https://driverbase.com/research/vehicles/bmw/i3/2018 https://driverbase.com/research/vehicles/bmw/i3/2018 and end up with ~$42K in pocket. (It is particularly inexpensive because they significantly improved the range in 2019. However, the 2018 would easily do your commute.) We ended up buying one in lieu of trading in an ICE pickup truck for a backordered electric F150. To me, the crazy thing is that we could apparently sell you the used i3 we bought earlier this year for a 36% profit, and you could end up with a 60% discount on the i3 (vs. pre-Ukraine prices) by switching to it from the RAV4!

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lotsofpulp 4y ago
I assume that when anything goes wrong with a BMW, and I assume it will relatively quickly, the repair costs will quickly close the gap on any initial savings.
- MengerSponge 4y ago
  There's a lot less to go wrong in an all-electric vehicle. Not saying you can't have issues with fans or the seat-heaters (ahem), but you're not looking at an engine rebuild or even oil changes down the line
  - coredog64 4y ago
    The original Fiat 500es were a train wreck, even for a Fiat. They were super cheap, but all the stories of the owners who carried around specific wrenches in the back to disconnect and reconnect the battery as the easiest fix finally convinced me to pass.
subpixel 4y ago
All of this must be very geo-specific. Driverbase seems to geo by IP and prices around here are about 8k over MSRP, if they are even available.

dmtroyer 4y ago

you should probably at least consider selling it according to these numbers.

onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago

> the commute to my daughters school is 50 miles rt That means it takes an hour to drive there and back?? Twice a day?!

jkqwzsoo 4y ago
I imagine they take a round trip, there and back, once a day.
- subpixel 4y ago
  This

ricardobeat 4y ago

Holy crap, school is 25 miles out?

subpixel 4y ago
27 actually, but only through kindergarten, bc Montessori. First grade will be 8 miles.