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>Heck, they could even cut down all legitimate 3080Tis to what would be 3080 or even 1060 performance via drivers after 3 years and you'd be able to do nothing

>Heck, they could even cut down all legitimate 3080Tis to what would be 3080 or even 1060 performance via drivers after 3 years and you'd be able to do nothing besides complain on social media -- you still have exactly the amount of hardware sold, and they never promised any performance levels (just check their site, you only get things like compute units, clock speed, ram etc. not performance guarantees like FLOPs or FPS) They can't legally do that now either. Apple was challenged in court for doing something similar and lost. There's already legal precedent. The problem is while that can't do that legally, they can do it technically and the path to recourse for the individual is difficult and often not worth it. Which means they can usually get away with it. We need a way for the legal system do deal with these kinds of things that don't involve actually going to the over worked and too expensive courts to settle it.

jabbany 4y ago
Assuming this refers to Batterygate, the loss was only in the EU where they do have better consumer protections. They actually settled in the US to avoid setting precedent...
dimitrios1 4y ago
> We need a way for the legal system do deal with these kinds of things that don't involve actually going to the over worked and too expensive courts to settle it. Arbitration? Could also gather a class. Unless if we are saying the argument is we shouldn't have to do these things. I agree, this is true. We also don't have to purchase Teslas if they indeed do these types of things on the regular.
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thrown_22 4y ago
It's called small claims court.
- account42 4y ago
  That might be worth for the $4500 Tesla downgrade but for the 3080 Ti vs. 3080 example you are probably going to spend more in court fees and wasted time than you are going to get unless small claims in your jurisdiction somehow lets you claim compensation for those too.

jabbany 4y ago

Assuming this refers to Batterygate, the loss was only in the EU where they do have better consumer protections. They actually settled in the US to avoid setting precedent...

dimitrios1 4y ago

> We need a way for the legal system do deal with these kinds of things that don't involve actually going to the over worked and too expensive courts to settle it. Arbitration? Could also gather a class. Unless if we are saying the argument is we shouldn't have to do these things. I agree, this is true. We also don't have to purchase Teslas if they indeed do these types of things on the regular.

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thrown_22 4y ago

It's called small claims court.

account42 4y ago
That might be worth for the $4500 Tesla downgrade but for the 3080 Ti vs. 3080 example you are probably going to spend more in court fees and wasted time than you are going to get unless small claims in your jurisdiction somehow lets you claim compensation for those too.