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I hear this a lot about Tesla: "I would have chosen a Tesla, but now..." But now, your choices are among legacy car makers and their dealer networks, which wer
by Zigurd 4y ago
I hear this a lot about Tesla: "I would have chosen a Tesla, but now..."
But now, your choices are among legacy car makers and their dealer networks, which were never a joy to interact with most of whom, Hyundai and maybe Nissan excepted, are just bringing out their first serious EVs.
Yeah, Tesla is overhyped. But their competition mostly, still, sucks. Nobody has, and nobody will for at least another year or two, make even a slight dent is demand for Tesla cars. Yes, Cybertruck is dumb. Yes, there is no roadster. But VW has apparently completely screwed their software stack. That is a much bigger failure.
The same can be said about SpaceX. SpaceX's value is highly dependent on a kind of telecom network that was a failure several times before when tried by Motorola, Microsoft, etc. Starship could fly soon, or next year, or in 5 years and it would still revolutionize access to space. Cost overruns? <cough>Boeing</cough>
It's all relative. Hype and image polishing is everywhere.
- mikestew 4y agoBut now, your choices are among legacy car makers and their dealer networks... Are you assuming that this is news to the naysayers? Or maybe the naysayers are fully-informed, and they still say, "I'd rather deal with a traditional dealer than buy a Tesla"? Because that's what this naysayer is saying: better to deal with the devil I know...
- onethought 4y agoBut for instance, most people aren’t familiar with the outright corruption the Hyundai leadership/owners enjoy in Korea. Because they don’t tweet about it, and actively cover it up. Their owners embezzle money, bribe officials… makes Elon look like a saint. So i’d posit, you actually don’t know that particular devil.
- Zigurd 4y agoThere were recent stories in the US of a Hyundai subsidiary parts plant using child labor in the US. They blamed it on a staffing agency. But, yeah, labor relations is a contact sport in Korea.
- mcguire 4y agoIt kinda sounds like the Tesla after-purchase support is less than a joy, though.
- panick21_ 4y agoExperiences are highly mixed. The Tesla mobile services is a joy for many people for any kind of smaller issue. They just show up while you work or when you don't need your car. The software support in terms of updates is very good, and you still get updates to years old software. Where they struggle is not enough service capacity and parts shortages. What you would expect from a car maker growing 50% and the service capacity has not grown as fast.
- HWR_14 4y agoIn Ford's case, a dealer network with no ability to negotiate (Ford told them the pricing was fixed) so there goes the biggest complaint. Other than that, I get a local business I can sue if something goes wrong and regulated by local authorities. Sounds better to me!
- onethought 4y agoDealer isn’t responsible for the product itself, you could only sue them for servicing and delivery failures.
- panick21_ 4y agoFord is not legally allowed to state that. However I think they are strongly pushing the dealers to that.