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Honestly, it's exactly this that made me choose to work here over a higher total comp elsewhere. It's what's kept me even after the stock crashed so hard. Tobi
by mabbo 4y ago
Honestly, it's exactly this that made me choose to work here over a higher total comp elsewhere. It's what's kept me even after the stock crashed so hard.
Tobi isn't a sociopath. The people he puts at the top aren't sociopaths. They're genuinely nice people, trying their best, and trying to do their best for everyone despite hard situations.
It truly is just a book club disguised as a publicly traded company.
- Valakas_ 4y agoThere should be sociopathy/narcissim/lack of empathy screenings early in life, and people scored based on it. Based on that jobs would be limited/encouraged. Put sociopaths in jobs where impact is limited.
- crgwbr 4y agoSure, because GATTACA is totally the world we all want to live in. /s
- shmatt 4y agoI guess that explains the stock price. I would never invest in a book club In all seriousness, I would separate the fact the top executives are good people, with the fact (at least in the U.S) they have become notorious low ballers for top engineers
- tensor 4y agoInteresting, I have the exact opposite view based what I hear from friends who work there. Kaz alone would make me never want to work at such an anti-intellectual, purely opinion and aggression driven workplace.
- ivraatiems 4y agoWho or what is Kaz?
- renewiltord 4y agoI googled "Kaz Shopify" and got https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian/
- Gunnerhead 4y agoSeems like VP of Merchant Services? Not familiar with him. https://ca.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian https://ca.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian
- altdataseller 4y agoSame here, but my view is from interacting with some of them, specifically some higher-up engineers. They acted as if they were so much better than you somehow. I don't know if it was the fact their RSUs were making them rich, or something. Not everyone is like this of course, but it left an awful first impression on me.
- tensor 4y agoYeah, that's common from what I hear. Also on the UX side you need approvals all the way up the chain even to Toby who can just veto your project a week before release for what amounts to personal preferences. Maybe the dev side is better but my impression is that the design side has no ownership and is driven primarily by the loudest opinion rather than any sort of data or testing. And when you have five layers of approvals where people pick on the easiest and least important aspects that ends up being a very slow design by committee. The end result of this culture is very low efficiency and consistently mediocre outcomes. The people who thrive in their culture appear to be the loudest and most aggressive.
- bkruse 4y agoI worked with Kaz at Facebook - he's the reason I would want to work at Shopify.
- ivraatiems 4y agoIf you're working there now, what's your take on the layoffs? Necessary/sensible? Who seems to be leaving?