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Wayland should be superior on external monitors when compared to Xorg, what kind of issues?

by nicce 4y ago

ledgerdev 4y ago
This was on fedora 36... mostly screen will not wake from sleep, but also black lines on the screen, and complete signal mess up where I can barely see what's happening. I tried everything, like switched from hdmi to display port cables, installed latest drivers from nvidia, still it's a mess. Wasted countless hours jerking around with it. It was so unusable and gave up even trying any more a couple months ago. Maybe will try in a few more months because I would really like to use the machine with an external monitor. I have learned my lesson, and will NEVER buy another nvidia product, not worth the trouble.
- nicce 4y ago
  It sounds like a driver issue and hard to say what is wrong... FYI: Nvidia published open-source GPU Kernel modules couple months ago. Maybe there is a brighter future ahead. https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/ https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-sourc...
  - ledgerdev 4y ago
    Looked around and seems pretty widespread. Links below to many issues, and some now fixed partially. Yeah, let's hope the open sourcing of those drivers make for a brighter future, but still I will do my damned best to never buy an nvidia product again. https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/161 https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/161 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2166 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2166 https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/vgqyv2/wayland_nvidia_not_detecting_external_monitor/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/vgqyv2/wayland_nvidia_... https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1891 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1891 https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/external-monitor-doesnt-work-on-wayland/214090 https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/external-monitor-doesn...
gpm 4y ago
I'm struggling to imagine how it could be superior to Xorg on this... Xorg works flawlessly with external monitors in my experience. Maybe there's some edgecase that I haven't hit that it fixes?
- nicce 4y ago
  Monitors are thought as separate instances by design when compared to Xorg. You can run different FPS on different monitors on Wayland, for example.
- vetinari 4y ago
  > Xorg works flawlessly with external monitors in my experience. Unless your displays are mixed DPI. Wayland works much better in this scenario.

Wayland should be superior on external monitors when compared to Xorg, what kind of issues?

by nicce 4y ago

Wayland should be superior on external monitors when compared to Xorg, what kind of issues?

This was on fedora 36... mostly screen will not wake from sleep, but also black lines on the screen, and complete signal mess up where I can barely see what's happening. I tried everything, like switched from hdmi to display port cables, installed latest drivers from nvidia, still it's a mess. Wasted countless hours jerking around with it. It was so unusable and gave up even trying any more a couple months ago. Maybe will try in a few more months because I would really like to use the machine with an external monitor. I have learned my lesson, and will NEVER buy another nvidia product, not worth the trouble.

nicce 4y ago
It sounds like a driver issue and hard to say what is wrong... FYI: Nvidia published open-source GPU Kernel modules couple months ago. Maybe there is a brighter future ahead. https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/ https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-sourc...
- ledgerdev 4y ago
  Looked around and seems pretty widespread. Links below to many issues, and some now fixed partially. Yeah, let's hope the open sourcing of those drivers make for a brighter future, but still I will do my damned best to never buy an nvidia product again. https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/161 https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/161 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2166 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2166 https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/vgqyv2/wayland_nvidia_not_detecting_external_monitor/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/vgqyv2/wayland_nvidia_... https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1891 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1891 https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/external-monitor-doesnt-work-on-wayland/214090 https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/external-monitor-doesn...

gpm 4y ago

I'm struggling to imagine how it could be superior to Xorg on this... Xorg works flawlessly with external monitors in my experience. Maybe there's some edgecase that I haven't hit that it fixes?

nicce 4y ago
Monitors are thought as separate instances by design when compared to Xorg. You can run different FPS on different monitors on Wayland, for example.
vetinari 4y ago
> Xorg works flawlessly with external monitors in my experience. Unless your displays are mixed DPI. Wayland works much better in this scenario.