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I don’t think this is right. Germany, for example, has 9 countries on its borders and a blood-curdling history, and it’s a very pleasant place now. The idea tha

I don’t think this is right. Germany, for example, has 9 countries on its borders and a blood-curdling history, and it’s a very pleasant place now. The idea that a country of 145M people lacking the agency to move forward doesn’t pass the smell test. I think it’s clear that Russia has some deeply-seated cultural problems that fuel this kind of thing. None of this, of course, makes the banishment of Russian cultural products (especially old ones) any more reasonable. We’ve got to get better at separation of concerns.

Ekaros 4y ago
Germany had good reasons for their actions in last century. Just remember the aggressions from likes of France... Historically thinking Ukraine is just continuation of constant wars in Europe.
- kergonath 4y ago
  > Just remember the aggressions from likes of France What? We must not have the same history books. In none of the French-German wars was the German side (or Prussia before that, or the HRE even before) an innocent victim. And, to be clear, everyone sleepwalked into WWI, sure (though it wasn’t France’s fault any more than Germany’s), but there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for WWII. I cannot believe someone would even write that. > Historically thinking Ukraine is just continuation of constant wars in Europe. I grant you that. Though Russia’s justifications are about as credible as Hitler’s were.
AlbertCory 4y ago
Well, no. Germany wasn't even united as a country until Bismarck. And it didn't grow to a gargantuan size by conquering neighboring, nearly empty lands.
IYasha 4y ago
"Russia" has been destroyed, raped and pillaged many times and been under hostile foreign control for the last half millenia (yup, if you dig deep enough). Don't expect them to let go easily, lol. The fact that people survive there never fails to amaze me. * quotes because lands had different names back then.

Ekaros 4y ago

Germany had good reasons for their actions in last century. Just remember the aggressions from likes of France... Historically thinking Ukraine is just continuation of constant wars in Europe.

kergonath 4y ago
> Just remember the aggressions from likes of France What? We must not have the same history books. In none of the French-German wars was the German side (or Prussia before that, or the HRE even before) an innocent victim. And, to be clear, everyone sleepwalked into WWI, sure (though it wasn’t France’s fault any more than Germany’s), but there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for WWII. I cannot believe someone would even write that. > Historically thinking Ukraine is just continuation of constant wars in Europe. I grant you that. Though Russia’s justifications are about as credible as Hitler’s were.

AlbertCory 4y ago

Well, no. Germany wasn't even united as a country until Bismarck. And it didn't grow to a gargantuan size by conquering neighboring, nearly empty lands.

IYasha 4y ago

"Russia" has been destroyed, raped and pillaged many times and been under hostile foreign control for the last half millenia (yup, if you dig deep enough). Don't expect them to let go easily, lol. The fact that people survive there never fails to amaze me. * quotes because lands had different names back then.