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The stunning failure of Nikola or any other large-scale fuel cell company other than Toyota to deliver working FC vehicles really calls into question your chara
by absolutelynobo 4y ago
The stunning failure of Nikola or any other large-scale fuel cell company other than Toyota to deliver working FC vehicles really calls into question your characterization of hydrogen as “more mature” than batteries. Every FC vehicle is also an EV, just FYI.
One would also wonder why China has ~0 fuel cell buses and tens of thousands of electric buses if FC is the more mature tech.
- jeffbee 4y agoMy city has a large fleet of fuel cell buses and has had them for over a decade, which suggests you don’t know what you are talking about.
- absolutelynobo 4y agoSo you’re saying that the the unnamed town you’re in bought a few FC buses 10 years ago and is still maintaining them today? That’s great, but it’s also an anecdote. Have they bought any recently? Have neighboring towns bought in as well?
- jeffbee 4y agoI see that you are doubling down on the “don’t know what you’re talking about” aspect of this debate. My local transit agency is AC Transit. It serves millions of people in several large cities. Last year it ordered fifty more fuel cell vehicles from its suppliers. https://www.actransit.org/zeb https://www.actransit.org/zeb
- absolutelynobo 4y agoThank you for sharing that link, Jeff! It’s neat to see that ACT is going for a 70% hydrogen, 30% electric mix. Their page has a unbiased-sounding section on it: > We will be running hydrogen and battery electric vehicles in identical service to collect real-world performance data for comparison—and to determine which technology performs better to meet the needs of our service as we move towards a complete zero-emission fleet by 2040. It looks like they started the hydrogen bus project 20 years ago, not ten.