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> Also, the employer might have just offered you the match to buy themselves time to look for someone cheaper. This is "common knowledge" but I've never seen i
by mywittyname 4y ago
> Also, the employer might have just offered you the match to buy themselves time to look for someone cheaper.
This is "common knowledge" but I've never seen it in real life before.
I've accepted counter offers, as has my wife and quite a few former colleagues. And none of these people were ever let go from that position.
The logic doesn't even makes sense. In large companies, the hiring manager doesn't care about salaries beyond if it fits in the budget. And firing people is a huge pain in the ass. If the company wanted to replace a person with someone cheaper, letting them go would be the best strategy. That would give the company two weeks to get documentation of the job function in place and start interviewing.
I can see this kind of vindictive behavior a very small company, where decisions are made on the whims of a mercurial owner. But you're equally as likely to get fired from a place like this for any number of mundane offenses which the owner finds insulting.
- PeterStuer 4y ago"Mercurial" owners (let's just say psychopathic, it's not really a secret anymore is it?) will respect you for ruthlessly calling their BS, and then will want to make it a life's mission to teach you to heal. So they will not fire you, just make your life hell in a very subtle but undeniable way. They'll fire you on the spot when finally you heal though.
- abuehrle 4y agoDo you mean "heel"?
- PeterStuer 4y agoYep, thx.
- skciva 4y agoIt just happened to me, slightly different situation than a "counter offer" but it was clear upon being let go that I was retained with a short term mindset, despite what I was pitched before deciding on whether or not to sign.
- tpoacher 4y agoI think the idea is less that they will fire you at the first opportunity, and more that if firings need to happen, you'll be on the top of the firing list.
- WiSaGaN 4y agoI suspect that "stay is bad" is propagated by headhunters, who have interest in candidates taking the offer and leaving the original company.
- mywittyname 4y agoProbably. I was told by a manager that HR has a difficult time figuring out salary levels for tech skills. And that an in-hand offer is very effective at convincing them, and upper management to approve a larger than normal pay increase. Worst case, they might just tell me to take it.
- willcipriano 4y agoI propagate it for game theory reasons. If people can be counteroffered easily there is no incentive for employers to give raises of their own accord, they can just wait until you have another offer in hand.
- LorenPechtel 4y agoThis. It's not about losing the job, it's about you just showed they don't need to offer raises to keep you.
- ruraljuror 4y agoWouldn’t employers be incentivized to give raises as soon as it was more cost efficient than counter offers?
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- alistairSH 4y agoI suspect some of "stay is bad" also comes from the employer end... even if you match an offer, is that employee likely to keep looking? They were unhappy enough to start looking - was compensation the only thing that bothered them? Probably not. May as well let them leave on their own, on good terms, and get a replacement ASAP.