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When I left my last job the owner asked about a counter offer. My new wage was so much higher that I told him even if he offered me that much I would resent hi
by Timpy 4y ago
When I left my last job the owner asked about a counter offer. My new wage was so much higher that I told him even if he offered me that much I would resent him for valuing me that highly and intentionally underpaying me.
- kranke155 4y agoBehavioural economics is a bitch. “Neoclassical” economists might say you made an irrational choice. Human beings know that how you feel is as important as how much you’re getting.
- ChadNauseam 4y agothis is well understood from an traditional economics perspective. accepting salary matches is a strategy that rewards employers who underpay you. not accepting matches punishes employers who underpay you. If you want to have your employer have the right incentives, you should not reward them for underpaying you
- toxik 4y agoCouldn’t you, as a strategy, just dress real nice once every six months and then every twelve or so, you just go to your boss and say you received an offer at 10% increased salary or something? They “match” that and you both feel like you made a good deal.
- difflens 4y agoWell if those were the only days that that person dressed nicely, surely the boss would notice :) I jest though, your point got a chuckle out of me!
- derstander 4y agoI think the dressing nicely implies that they’ve had a job interview somewhere else. I usually only dress formally when I’m presenting outside of my company and people usually joke about my having interviewed somewhere else that day.
- djkivi 4y agoMaybe your boss says, ok take it then. It is a risky strategy.
- toxik 4y agoSeems pretty easy to back out. Though absolutely a boy-who-cried-wolf type situation.
- HPsquared 4y agoThat's fraud and illegal, though. Surely.
- toxik 4y agoIt is not fraud, it is just lying. Lying is not illegal. Withholding the truth is also lying, by omission. In that sense, your employer is already lying to you by not compensating you according to your actual value. I realize it’s a bit of a stretch but there’s something there.
- treis 4y ago>It is not fraud, it is just lying. Lying is not illegal. Lying to get a financial gain is the definition of fraud. That said, it's one of those technically illegal things that no one in a million years is going to get charged for.
- toxik 4y agoYou’re right, and I didn’t know that. Fascinating law. I blame being ESL. However, I wonder if it actually is fraud. Intent matters. The intention isn’t to defraud the employer, but rather to short-circuit the whole process of job skipping for a correct wage. So it’s actually not an unfair gain, and that is precisely why I think it’s not even immoral in this case.
- smugma 4y agoI don’t think it’s either of those. Unethical and immoral are better terms to describe lying for personal gain.
- toxik 4y agoIs it more immoral than withholding fair wages because your employees are unwilling to change jobs? It is fighting fire with fire to be sure, but it somehow seems justified in this context. A person in my life changed jobs to a worse location and then changed back. Pay rise of like 20% and a better position (senior doctor). That is just not justifiable. Same employer, same hospital, same ward.