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Indeed, the irony that they call it OpenVMS now when you can only get an evaluation for comercial use and they explicitly bar hobbiests is a shame.
by Zenst 4y ago
Indeed, the irony that they call it OpenVMS now when you can only get an evaluation for comercial use and they explicitly bar hobbiests is a shame.
- nix23 4y agoOpen has nothing todo with opensource but with "open" abi. Same with OpenServer from SCO
- selfhoster11 4y agoWhat else are we going to congratulate them for, not requiring licensing to open a new TCP socket?
- nix23 4y ago>congratulate Why? Did you do that toward's SCO? But later you found out about BSD's?
- Zenst 4y agoTrue but then it was somewhat a fashion of the time to add Open to things (marketing trying to capitalise upon the Opensource movement heh). For VMS the history is: "In July 1992, DEC renamed VAX/VMS to OpenVMS as an indication for its support of open systems industry standards such as POSIX and Unix compatibility, and to drop the VAX connection since a migration to a different architecture was underway."
- pdw 4y agoIt's referring to the "Open Systems" hype of the 80s / early 90s. The term "open source" became popular only much later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_system_(computing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_system_(computing)
- michaelhoffman 4y agoIt definitely was a fashion then to add "open" to names but this predates the wide use of the term "open source". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source#Open_source_as_a_term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source#Open_source_as_a_t...
- pjmlp 4y agoLikewise there is very few Open in POSIX and UNIX standards, for a long time, just like with ISO C and C++, one really needed to buy them in paper form to read them.
- Dracophoenix 4y agoUnless things have changed recently, hobbyists can sign up for a license for OpenVMS. However a condition of the license is that you can't use a hobbyist license for commercial purposes.
- dboreham 4y agoThings changed.
- dfox 4y agoHPE has divested VMS Software Inc., so if you want hobbyist license you have to go to VSI and not to HPE. And under VSI the process of getting the hobyist license is simpler (ie. you don't have to be member of anything) and IIRC you can even get images of installation media directly from VSI.
- Zenst 4y agoInteresting, do you have a link? I went via https://vmssoftware.com/ https://vmssoftware.com/ and the get Get OpenVMS link which yeilds a form that has: "To help us qualify your application for this evaluation release kit, please fill out the following survey. Please be advised that community (hobbyist) licenses are not currently available, evaluation licenses are provided to commercial customers only."