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You understand that "taxes you owe" are defined as an optimization function (Laffer curve), not some kind of moral imperative? By the very definition of the pro

You understand that "taxes you owe" are defined as an optimization function (Laffer curve), not some kind of moral imperative? By the very definition of the process you cannot possibly "owe" these taxes.

lordgrenville 4y ago
The Laffer curve is a theoretical tool used by economists. The tax you owe is whatever is specified in the tax code.
shepherdjerred 4y ago
You don’t think tax evasion is morally wrong? How do you think governments raise funds for your roads, utilities, and military?
- FpUser 4y ago
  I think that the governments encroaching on rights is what really morally wrong. Wake me up when they are personally responsible for the harm they do.
- yucky 4y ago
  >You don’t think tax evasion is morally wrong? You can easily make the argument that tax evasion is morally right, since much of our tax money goes to a military that destabilizes "unfriendly" governments around the world and spills as much blood as needed to maintain our globalist economy.
- caeril 4y ago
  > How do you think governments raise funds for your roads, utilities, and military? My military? The one that hasn't maintained a defensive posture since 1946? The one that, instead of defending me, goes out of its way to murder civilians in sovereign nations? The one that engages in not-congressionally-declared wars on completely fabricated pretexts? You raise this as a good thing? Utilities: I don't know where you live, but where I live, private electric utility companies pay for their own infrastructure, or, where there is a public utility, they are paid by bonds secured by future water/sewer fees, not taxes. Roads, fine, I have no problem with these, but again, they are paid largely by use and gasoline taxes, not income tax. Furthermore: sales and use taxes are great, and I fully support them. Even luxury taxes are fine - you want to stick it to the rich, go for it, set a 60% sales tax on Maseratis and such. Income tax, however, is an absolute tyranny. Disincentivizing value creation is literally the worst idea in modern governance. In a world of 400+ PPM CO2, disincentivizing consumption is what we need the most.

lordgrenville 4y ago

The Laffer curve is a theoretical tool used by economists. The tax you owe is whatever is specified in the tax code.

shepherdjerred 4y ago

You don’t think tax evasion is morally wrong? How do you think governments raise funds for your roads, utilities, and military?

FpUser 4y ago
I think that the governments encroaching on rights is what really morally wrong. Wake me up when they are personally responsible for the harm they do.
yucky 4y ago
>You don’t think tax evasion is morally wrong? You can easily make the argument that tax evasion is morally right, since much of our tax money goes to a military that destabilizes "unfriendly" governments around the world and spills as much blood as needed to maintain our globalist economy.
caeril 4y ago
> How do you think governments raise funds for your roads, utilities, and military? My military? The one that hasn't maintained a defensive posture since 1946? The one that, instead of defending me, goes out of its way to murder civilians in sovereign nations? The one that engages in not-congressionally-declared wars on completely fabricated pretexts? You raise this as a good thing? Utilities: I don't know where you live, but where I live, private electric utility companies pay for their own infrastructure, or, where there is a public utility, they are paid by bonds secured by future water/sewer fees, not taxes. Roads, fine, I have no problem with these, but again, they are paid largely by use and gasoline taxes, not income tax. Furthermore: sales and use taxes are great, and I fully support them. Even luxury taxes are fine - you want to stick it to the rich, go for it, set a 60% sales tax on Maseratis and such. Income tax, however, is an absolute tyranny. Disincentivizing value creation is literally the worst idea in modern governance. In a world of 400+ PPM CO2, disincentivizing consumption is what we need the most.